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IC2---Taken as individuals, most of the Frenchies I've dealt with are pretty straight up good guys. Politics is a nasty damn thing, and yes, there are some unresolveable issues in a country that has two official languages.

Originally Posted by brianrupnow

IC2---Taken as individuals, most of the Frenchies I've dealt with are pretty straight up good guys. Politics is a nasty damn thing, and yes, there are some unresolveable issues in a country that has two official languages.

At least Canada has official languages - we in the US sure don't - and it is Constitutionally omitted. Dammit !!

And I did qualify my statement by saying SOME of the French ONLY speakers. Good ol Gen. DeGaulle sure didn't help political matters in '68/'69 or thereabouts which is the same time period I was dating a very nice lady from Montreal - lotta miles back and forth - about wore out my Gran Prix.

Problem Resolved---10 minutes with a file and my Dremel tool. I removed 3/16" in the area shown---See before and after pictures. I took out 3/16" of metal from the area shown---This lets me tip the headlight back untill its setting right. IC2 nailed it pretty good---I think I'll take out a full 1/4" just to "make sure" that I have a bit of "overtravel" if I need it. Once everything is rewired and tightened up is NOT the time to find out I needed to take out 1/16" more.---I will post more when I get the fender brackets and start that part of the project.---Brian

Quick Dumb Question---Can I buy a 7" Halogen light that will fit in where my regular old incandescent sealed beams are, and use the same wiring pigtail, and have Hi and Lo beam?

Originally Posted by brianrupnow

Quick Dumb Question---Can I buy a 7" Halogen light that will fit in where my regular old incandescent sealed beams are, and use the same wiring pigtail, and have Hi and Lo beam?

Yep, What it is is a light mount that you use an H4 bulb. Be careful about the wattage though as your circuit was probably designed for the standard 55W and some of the high intensities are well up there. If you go more then about 60-65W, you might want to consider a relay in the system

(Glad you asked - one of my mounts is foggy and I have to replace it if I can't clean it up it.)

IC2---I completely rewired the car when I built it 3 years ago.(remember, it was stripped to a bare shell)---I did include a relay in the headlight system---Thanks for the info.---Brian

Brian and IC2, thanks for the pictures. Today I put that problem out of mind and worked on the bracket at the base of the steering column which is still unfinished. However you have generated hope and confusion on this question about the lights. I bought the cheaper Dietz headlights with what are called halogen bulbs but I thought that meant halogen sealed beams. In the Speedway catalog the King Bee headlights that you both have are offered with the H4 bulb but I think I have the sealed beam type? The halogen H4 setup can be modified to place a yellow bulb in the same space just below the halogen bulb and that would solve my turn signal problem in the front so my question is whether I can install a H4 bulb and reflecting unit in the Dietz bucket. I will have to take a closer look at my Dietz headlights which are still in the box. If I can retrofit the Dietz buckets with the H4 bulb and add the amber turn signal inside the same buckets I would be happy about that. To me the King Bee buckets look strange and I prefer the shape of the Dietz buckets. I know I specified "halogen" when I ordered the Dietz headlights so maybe I did get the H4 setup, I will have to check it out closely and if so then I can add the amber flasher bulb in the same bucket (viola!?)

Brian, I had to look in four stores today to find what I call an "Irish slouch hat" (to ward off the increasingly cold weather) relative to part of my genetic heritage only to pay a pretty high price at a local Macys store (upscale higher prices) and find that it has a label saying it is "British" but made in Italy! In my experience, Canadians are very close to American but while I can read scientific articles in French I have found that I really can't understand spoken French. I find it interesting to occasionally watch the British Parliament on BBC-TV and I always am amazed that they can string English words together in one sentence without "uh you know"; the British really seem to be able to speak English! On the other hand any linguist/philologist will tell you that English is really a polyglot of several languages and my university students used to remind me that language is constantly evolving and a dynamic process as an excuse to generate modern slang. One of the interesting developments is that "would have" became "would've" and that has now become "would of" but then again that is why we have schools to try to formalize things like language in spite of the desire of teen agers to reinvent the world! So IC2 do you think that H4 reflector will replace a sealed beam in a Dietz bucket?

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder

In edit mode: I just checked the headlights I got from Speedway and they are sealed beam type but the actual bulbs are marked "HALOGEN", so the question is whether the H4 reflector unit can be used where the sealed beam would be. I will check with a tech person at Speedway.

Originally Posted by Don Shillady

Brian and IC2, thanks for the pictures. Today I put that problem out of mind and worked on the bracket at the base of the steering column which is still unfinished. However you have generated hope and confusion on this question about the lights. I bought the cheaper Dietz headlights with what are called halogen bulbs but I thought that meant halogen sealed beams. In the Speedway catalog the King Bee headlights that you both have are offered with the H4 bulb but I think I have the sealed beam type? The halogen H4 setup can be modified to place a yellow bulb in the same space just below the halogen bulb and that would solve my turn signal problem in the front so my question is whether I can install a H4 bulb and reflecting unit in the Dietz bucket. I will have to take a closer look at my Dietz headlights which are still in the box. If I can retrofit the Dietz buckets with the H4 bulb and add the amber turn signal inside the same buckets I would be happy about that. To me the King Bee buckets look strange and I prefer the shape of the Dietz buckets. I know I specified "halogen" when I ordered the Dietz headlights so maybe I did get the H4 setup, I will have to check it out closely and if so then I can add the amber flasher bulb in the same bucket (viola!?)

Brian, I had to look in four stores today to find what I call an "Irish slouch hat" (to ward off the increasingly cold weather) relative to part of my genetic heritage only to pay a pretty high price at a local Macys store (upscale higher prices) and find that it has a label saying it is "British" but made in Italy! In my experience, Canadians are very close to American but while I can read scientific articles in French I have found that I really can't understand spoken French. I find it interesting to occasionally watch the British Parliament on BBC-TV and I always am amazed that they can string English words together in one sentence without "uh you know"; the British really seem to be able to speak English! On the other hand any linguist/philologist will tell you that English is really a polyglot of several languages and my university students used to remind me that language is constantly evolving and a dynamic process as an excuse to generate modern slang. One of the interesting developments is that "would have" became "would've" and that has now become "would of" but then again that is why we have schools to try to formalize things like language in spite of the desire of teen agers to reinvent the world! So IC2 do you think that H4 reflector will replace a sealed beam in a Dietz bucket?

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder

In edit mode: I just checked the headlights I got from Speedway and they are sealed beam type but the actual bulbs are marked "HALOGEN", so the question is whether the H4 reflector unit can be used where the sealed beam would be. I will check with a tech person at Speedway.

Don,
I have to jump in here -
- An H4 bulb is a separate bulb to fit in a specifically designed assembly.

- A halogen light was/is the intermediate step between the original tungsten and the separately replaceable bulb. They generally look like the old headlights 5.5", 7" and the rectangular 4 bulb setups

To carry it further, almost all new vehicles have some sort of replaceable bulb assembly - from H4 up to my new F350 pickup's H13. And some like the new upper end VWs and BMWs have specially designed bulbs that are made only for those models and are expensive.

The English language - an interesting polyglot of Germanic, Gaelic, Ameican Indian, India Indian and Caribbean along with many others.. The History Channel has had a program lately - usually Sunday morning while I'm having my 1st cuppa - that is showing how the language developed. It's no wonder that foreign speakers have problems with the innuendos. They might also have it on the internet as well.

Irish slouch hats are/were available froom LL Bean a lot cheaper then Macy's. Why not just go to the auld country and get an autherntic version - you will like the experience if you have never been there. Just make sure your Visa will handle the shock

Don---I am an utter babe in the woods when it comes to halogen bulbs. I have never really had anything to do with them---that will be another "figure it out as I go" thing. In terms of the English language---Go to Newfoundland sometime, and try to follow a conversation!!! Very interestingly, growing up where and when I did, there was very little communication and flow of people back and forth between small isolated communities in Ontario (mid-northern). In the 1950's when I was a teenager, they were just beginning to improve the road systems to travel more easily between these small communities, which made centralized schooling and schoolbuses possible. However---these small communities had been settled for close to 100 years, and each of them had developed a very distinct dialect. I could hear a person speak one sentence, and be able to tell if he had grown up in Hardwood Lake, Little Ireland, Coe-Hill, or Bronson---or a dozen other small communities that were all within 30 miles of each other. Now with centralized schooling and television and radio, all the people up there now speak with the same dialect, with no specific distinctions, regardless of where they grew up.

yankees and redcoats tet dure com'e sai chien!

Originally Posted by flh4speed

yankees and redcoats tet dure com'e sai chien!

Is that coona$$ ??

IC2/Dave, I am trying to track down where you got the halogen replacement kit. The local Va distributor for Wilk-Bilt Cars has a disconnected phone number. The best I can do for dialect is mid-NJ when speaking with "bod o. useguys!" Kojak was trying to teach us that dialect but he is gone now!

Don Shillady

Originally Posted by Don Shillady

IC2/Dave, I am trying to track down where you got the halogen replacement kit. The local Va distributor for Wilk-Bilt Cars has a disconnected phone number. The best I can do for dialect is mid-NJ when speaking with "bod o. useguys!" Kojak was trying to teach us that dialect but he is gone now!

Don Shillady

Don,
Did you try this web site for them?
http://www.wilkbilt.com/

Also, Speedway has the same or similar lights:
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/2328...mNo=headlights

or:

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/GmSear...load=1&start=0


But I suggest you purchase the bulbs locally - i.e. good Sylvania or GE instead of the Chinese bulbs I have in my Taiwanese lights

Well--Somethings happening---Got a call from Canada Customs today asking if I expected a package coming from USA. I said yes, and they said okay, just checking!!!

IC2/Dave, Thanks for the links, I have bookmarked the Wilk-Bilt site. However I did chat with a tech guy at Speedway and he said the yellow blinker turn signal cannot be seen when the headlights are on. Further the Speedway site you kindly provided says that their yellow LED kit cannot be added to their H4 bulb. Thus I am content with the Halogen sealed beam bulbs and I will have to figure out the turn signals some other way. The whole reason for me wanting to use the H4 bulb was so I could use the yellow LED kit with it, but if the turn signal is not visible when the headlights are on there will be no turn signal at night in the front so I will have to scrap that idea. Thanks for your help! I think I see how to hang one of the small Mr. Roadster lights from the few threads protruding from the bottom of the mount bolt but then how to get the wires into the light? That would require a T-connector for the wire conduit and then there is not much space between the fender and the bottom of the swan-neck dropped bar. Sorry to think out loud about this but I will eventually solve this problem even if I have to hang Mr. Roadster lights on the side of the cowl where original '29 Fords had accessoriy cowl parking lights. I am tempted to break all hot rod tradition and mount small turn signal lights on the crown of the front fenders by running the wires (two wires on a fiberglass body!) in the channel of the fender brace. The amber LED truck running lights in the bumper actually look pretty good except the mounting plates are flimsy even though they are stainless steel and worse, I don't see any way to hide the wires under the bumper brackets. I think I can make heavier stainless mounting brackets but hiding the wires is a problem I have not solved yet.

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder