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Don,
Have you considered the OEM style cowl lights for your signals - that's what I'm using instead of the normal rinky dink after market stuff. I have an idea but can't research until tomorrow AM - so will add some then

Don,

I tried the Speedway kit, took it out and threw it away. I decided to add a couple of the hokey little accessory lights. Not elegant, but workable.

Henry Rifle, You mean the yellow insert in the headlights?

IC2, I have looked at the cowl lights and that would look closer to stock but the '29 cowl is so clean that so far I have been reluctant to clutter it with other stuff, but that may be an answer to the problem.

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder

Originally Posted by Don Shillady

IC2, I have looked at the cowl lights and that would look closer to stock but the '29 cowl is so clean that so far I have been reluctant to clutter it with other stuff, but that may be an answer to the problem.

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder

I can't disagree with you on that but most of the after market lights look so cheap, that I couldn't bring myself to using them. The lights that I was looking for to show you actually bolt to your headlights and become a part of the assembly. They were on many early cars, looked streamlined and a part of the OEM design. Unfortunately, I can't find any as after market. I'll keep looking.

Or another option - mold some Hagan's into your beautifully painted fenders - which I doubt you would consider at this time.

I understand someone is repopping Guide 682 C headlights with the turnsignal light on top. I plan on buying a set of those after the first of the year when things calm down a little.

I was glad to hear that because the originals are starting to bring stupid money and I really like the looks of them.

Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

I understand someone is repopping Guide 682 C headlights with the turnsignal light on top. I plan on buying a set of those after the first of the year when things calm down a little.

I was glad to hear that because the originals are starting to bring stupid money and I really like the looks of them.

Don

Thanks Don, those were the ones I was thinking about.

Not sure but they may already be available - thought I saw some at NSRA Burlinton but since I wasn't interested didn't pursue

Repop Guide assemblies and parts can be found here: http://www.otbgear.com/guide682.html as they get more distributors competition should move the price down a bit over time.

These are the one's Don was talking about that fit under an H4 bulb; http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/2376...ignal%20lights

Here's another type that attaches to the reflector: http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000042b

Here's another alternative that will adapt to most buckets: http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000042b

Personally I don't care for the tacked on "motorcycle", or whatever you want to call them, type because...............well, they look tacked on. They are cheaper though so it depends on your tastes.

Wouldn't it be a wonderfull idea if somebody would market a set of "guide" style mini buckets with lenses and bulbs (the ones that set on top of the headlight bucket) that could be retrofitted with little work to fit onto the top of a set of KingBee chrome or painted headlights. I bet they'd make a zillion bucks----

Nice - but sure not priced for the weak of financial heart .

As far as I know the Guide 682C headlights are now available in chrome or paintable buckets and they are advertised in Street Rodder. However the current price is about $435 for a pair and that is a little steep for me. I have also thought of drilling a hole in the top of my buckets and mountng one of the smaller Mr. Roadster lights on the top of the bucket but that is sort of what Bob is referring to in terms of tacked-on appearance. Maybe the bulb from Parr Automotive is worth consideration although it is half way in terms of price and replacement of a burnt out bulb has a high price. Bob thanks for the research on headlight bulbs. Brian has an excellent idea in that all that is needed is a pressed metal shell that can be riveted to the top of an existing bucket with a bulb socket in it and set up for a Guide replacement lens. The guy who is marketing the whole Guide 682C could probably do this but probably prefers to sell the whole unit at a higher price.

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder

Don---if you stick a Mr. Roadster light on top of your headlight, your Hotrodders Membership will be withdrawn for sheer goofiness!!! Either spend the money for some guide headlights (Ouch Ouch Ouch) or put some Mr Roadster Signal lights down on top of the framerail, or tucked under it. Or---(and this isn't a great improvement over sticking them on top of the headlight), make up a small stainless bracket that has a 17/32" hole in it and put it between the hex nut that holds your headlight in place and the headlight bar---then hang an aftermarket light off the bracket, down beside or below your headlight.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED BY BRIAN !!!!


Years ago on my T bucket I fashioned a small bracket out of .25 aluminum that I mounted under the headlight bolt and the rounded plate and installed inboard of the light. I hope you can see this setup, but I think it is something like what Brian was saying and can be easily made up

WOW, what peer pressure! IC2/Dave that inboard mount is worth thinking about, I will mull it over. I am attaching a picture of a restored 1929 Sport Coupe that Brian has seen before, but this time I am using it to show what the cowl lights look like on a '29. This car was recently sold by my neighbor Dick Ivey and he is now working on restoring a 1930 Fordor. The Sportcoupe had a badge which said "First in Class" from Hershey several years ago. Maybe I could use the cowl lamps for turn signals and in fact this '29 did have turn signals in the cowl lamps but they do look a bit clunky. Maybe in my overall theme of a Resto-Rod I could at least say the cowl lights are original but they do not look "roddish". I have also thought of drilling and tapping the top hump of the swan-neck dropped bar and maybe IC2's idea of a mounting plate can be used outboard of the bucket. I had a pretty good day today. Although the garage temperature hovered around 50 F and I waited for the warmer afternoon hours, I got in three solid hours work on the horrible hole I made when I cut out the tranmission tunnel from the BeBops body. I only need to finish putting two bolts into the front floor and it will be finished including mounting the accelerator pedal and cable as well as the lower mount for the steering column. Taking Bob's suggestion of over a year ago I made a mounting plate inside the firewall from 0.25" aluminum plate and bolted through from the front with a piece of 16 gauge stainless sheet painted body color. Now there are 8 bolts through the front and inner sandwich of the fiberglass firewall along with the added two bolts for the accelerator mount and the threaded carb cable mount and I hope to get you a picture soon of the finished firewall which now has a flat floor inside with a very small hump for the R700 trans with a LOT more foot room around the accelerator pedal. With the SBC/R700 driveline there is no need for a large transmission hump. This has been a long nightmare of feeling that I had made an irreversible cut in the fiberglass body, but I think I have it under control and do not want to do it again!

Don Shillady
Retired SCientist/teen rodder

Its a quiet night on the forums. I am still waiting for my fender braces to arrive (think they must be coming by dogsled!!) I managed to bitch up my right shoulder yesterday---musta pulled a muscle . Can't raise my right arm above my chest without some major pain. Bummer---even if the parts come Monday, I'll have to wait for this crippled wing to heal up. Getting old sucks!!! I took a break from the Toyota job I've been working on for the last two months, and went down to the big smoke (Toronto) to see a customer that I designed a special conveyor system for last summer. This is a system thats going into a Dupont paint factory in Toronto. My customer has been waiting 3 months for a "Lid Crimper" for 5 gallon paint cans to come in from a factory somewhere in USA. This lid crimper goes into the very last station in the conveyor system, which is moving empty 5 gallon paint cans through a series of "fill" stations, where different chemicals that make up the paint are added to the cans, then puts a lid on them and sends the now filled cans out for stockpiling or shipping. I had to bring this "lid crimper" back to my place and do up a solid model of it to insert into my overall conveyor assembly. Jeez---what a neat device. I didn't even know there was such a thing---but then, if you never had to use such a thing, why would you??? Its got one great big honkin' air cylinder in the center, and an array of 16 arms that are all actuated off a central ring to crimp the lids---it sorta looks like the offspring of Mrs. Jetson and Edward Scissorhands---and, if you wondered---it took me 2 hours to measure all the major geometry on the actual part, and create this "to scale" solid model.

Today the first set of original fender braces arrived. These are the ones that I traded the original headlight bar for. Sorry for the quality of the picture----They are in amazingly good shape for something 78 years old. The holes for all of the fasteners are in good condition, not elongated or torn out. There is surface pitting, but certainly nothing that will impair the functionality. They have a few rather "interesting" bends in them, that probably did not originate at the factory. I fully expect a long and rather tortuous ordeal in making them fit what I have, but Hey---thats what oxy-acetylene is for. I am still sicker than a dog with cold/flu and have a torn up shoulder muscle to boot, so whatever happens isn't going to happen real quick. Now, tomorrow I have to box up the headlight bar and UPS it down to California---