Thread: brutal honesty needed 38-39 plymouth??

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Originally Posted by flh4speed

i tossed the $500 out on the table and the guy told me he had to think about it , if he stands pat at his asking price i think im gonna give it a pass , i have enough on my plate at the moment , hes had the car a few years i dont think its going anyplace anytime soon .. thanks for yalls thoughts it helped me in my decision making process..

Bet he comes back with $1000. And your counter offer?? Why $750, of course. I bet that between bouncing off Mississippi bridge pilings you could find lots of time

My Westbank home took on 12 inches of water, and is 30 inches above street level. That's in Harvey. North of US 90 did better than south.

My '93 New Yorker was parked up the driveway and took 4 inches of water above the rockers. It still runs (I gave it to a friend that didn't have transportation) but lots of electrical issues.

Originally Posted by SBC

My Westbank home took on 12 inches of water, and is 30 inches above street level. That's in Harvey. North of US 90 did better than south.

My '93 New Yorker was parked up the driveway and took 4 inches of water above the rockers. It still runs (I gave it to a friend that didn't have transportation) but lots of electrical issues.

the cars in gretna next door to my brothers house , lotsa wind and rain during katrina but it didnt flood in the old part of town once known as mechanicsville you from Nola SBC? me and the wife are from marrero..

Yeah - I lived in Gretna 20 years - 920 8th street.
My legal description refers to Mechanicsham as the old German town.

Moved to Harvey in 97 and Houston after Katrina.
I also have a 77 FLH - I'll bet we know some common friends.
Harley Charlie, Brad Fox, Beast Mire, Pappy, Roland and Farrell, Jerry and Glenn Loup . . .

Originally Posted by IC2

Bet he comes back with $1000. And your counter offer?? Why $750, of course. I bet that between bouncing off Mississippi bridge pilings you could find lots of time

i resemble that remark




all i need is a fresh pair of BVDs and im willing to do all my own stunts..haha

What happened ,did the fuel filter clog ...or ?
I have been on those boats alot ,my dad is the youngest pilot to ever get his licence on the missouri river.
Been at Massman, for a while now.
What barge companies boat was that ?
Aleast you got out of that booger ,before she hit bottom!!!!!
Massmans boat yard is right above the chain of rocks in st.louis,right past where you enter the canal for lock 26 or 27 ,do not remember which pool number it is.....

Saw one on tv a few years back where the tug hit a bridge in flood stage, rolled over, when under the bridge and then came up....upright.. on the other side. Was that the same as the one in the pix? I don't remember where it happened. It was kind of neat to watch.

it happened on the black warrior river in alabama in the late 70s , and yes the boat righted its self and no harm to the personel other than the odviuos laundry change the boat belonged to WGN , Warrior Gulf Navigation
Shawnlee28 that would be lock 27s pool as lock 26 no longer existes and was replaced by Mel Price lock and dam..

being i have hi-jacked my own thread heres the rest of the pics ...bridge-1 towboat-0
and no this was not any vessel i have ever worked on i just have the pics my own dad gave
me years ago to remind me that this industry will kill you or others in a heartbeat .. after 30 years out here its worked so far

Don

Think they need to transfer some weight, the left side appears to be a bit low!!!!! On airplanes, they adjust that with a trim tab....do boats have them???????

It looks like most of the metal is there and in repairable shape but whatever is missing may be hard to find. One point not mentioned so far is the nostalgia angle. My family had two '36 Plymouths, a '40 and a '50 as hand-downs when my grandfather would trade in his Plymouth by trading my Dad's earlier Plymouth and giving us the later model. As a kid I recall a lot of low income adventures trying to keep those Plymouths running and they usually had a tractor-like low gear ratio; especially the '36 model! What I am trying to say is that I was a Fordnatic as a teenager and rebelled against the constant stream of Plymouths as straight-six dogs but my Grandfather swore by the MOPAR hydraulic brakes during a period when the Ford mechanical brakes were scary at best. So for me a '39 Plymouth would be a time machine back in memory lane and I would try to put a 318 into it and I would offer $1000 with the idea of trying to get it. For you with other projects it would seem there is not the nostalgia aspect so unless you have a MOPAR obsession it would be better for somebody else to bring it back to life.

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Think they need to transfer some weight, the left side appears to be a bit low!!!!! On airplanes, they adjust that with a trim tab....do boats have them???????

in the first pic you can see the engine room door is closed when the boat started to trip , if the door had been open well the boat would not have made it and would have sunk on the spot , pure luck , and the answer to the trim tab question , nope , ballist tanks , fuel tanks , and water tanks trim these boats

Originally Posted by Don Shillady

It looks like most of the metal is there and in repairable shape but whatever is missing may be hard to find. One point not mentioned so far is the nostalgia angle. My family had two '36 Plymouths, a '40 and a '50 as hand-downs when my grandfather would trade in his Plymouth by trading my Dad's earlier Plymouth and giving us the later model. As a kid I recall a lot of low income adventures trying to keep those Plymouths running and they usually had a tractor-like low gear ratio; especially the '36 model! What I am trying to say is that I was a Fordnatic as a teenager and rebelled against the constant stream of Plymouths as straight-six dogs but my Grandfather swore by the MOPAR hydraulic brakes during a period when the Ford mechanical brakes were scary at best. So for me a '39 Plymouth would be a time machine back in memory lane and I would try to put a 318 into it and I would offer $1000 with the idea of trying to get it. For you with other projects it would seem there is not the nostalgia aspect so unless you have a MOPAR obsession it would be better for somebody else to bring it back to life.

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder

as for having other projects you are right as i sure do , i also have a donor dodge sitting out back that would do this body good and no i do not have a nostalgia aspect for any mopar in general other than the roadrunners and cudas i have owned in the past most of my interests have always been in muscle cars and until just resently i started getting interested in older rides
motorcycles , 50s and 60s cars i have a handle on , i posted this thread to find out what the members of this site would pay for a car of this age and in this shape , i also know the car has been sitting as is for at least 8 years
if i can get the car cheap i will buy it , if not i can live without it..

$5-700 is in there not $2000. NADA shows low retail at $4,525. But that is:

Low Retail Value
This vehicle would be in mechanically functional condition, needing only minor reconditioning. The exterior paint, trim, and interior would show normal wear, needing only minor reconditioning. May also be a deteriorated restoration or a very poor amateur restoration. Most usable "as-is".

VMR only goes back to 1946 but shows a Plymouth in this condition at $650-700. Note the #5 condition

Collector Car Market Review
Condition Guidelines


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#1 Excellent: A close to perfect original or a very well restored vehicle. Generally a body-off restoration, but a well done body-on restoration that has been fully detailed may qualify. The vehicle is stunning to look at and any flaws are trivial and not readily apparent. Everything works as new. All equipment is original, NOS, or excellent quality reproductions. (See show car description in How to Use section.)

#2 Very Good: An extremely presentable vehicle showing minimal wear, or a well restored vehicle. Runs and drives smooth and tight. Needs no mechanical or cosmetic work. All areas (chassis not required) have been fully detailed. Beautiful to look at but clearly below a #1 vehicle.

#3 Good: Presentable inside and out with some signs of wear. Not detailed but very clean. Body should be straight and solid with no apparent rust and absolutely no rust-through anywhere. Shiny, attractive paint but may have evidence of minor fading or checking or other imperfections. Runs and drives well. May need some minor mechanical or cosmetic work but is fully usable and enjoyable as is.

#4 Fair: runs and drives OK but needs work throughout the vehicle. Body shows signs of wear or previous restoration work. Any rust should be minimal and not in any structural areas. Cosmetics, body, and mechanics all need work to some degree.

#5 Poor: In need of complete restoration, but is complete and not a rust bucket beyond repair. May or may not run. Not roadworthy.

Parts or Salvage: Incomplete vehicle most useful for parts. Generally, take 50-60% of the #5 value.