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    Is any one building street rods with 4 Bangers now days? Show pictures, want ideas. Gas is too high to play with V-8's any more. Comments welcome. Really want pictures! Please help!!
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    Yes Sir, my hot rod has 2 four bangers
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    Nothing currently. I have done a couple with the Pontiac Iron Duke 4 bangers, both were Track T's and both were neat little cars!!!! Built them many years back, like the time of the last great fuel shortage fiasco, doubt I have pictures anymore though..... One was built with a 1 1/2" X 3" rectangular frame, the other was done up with a 1 5/8" round tube moly frame with an old style Franklin quickie and sprint car style torsion bar suspension..... Would be a lot of fun now with all the goodies available for the four bangers!!!!!
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    I like the turbocharged Volvo 4 cylinders motors and would like to stick one in our 48 Thames panel--one of these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOW'D
    I like the turbocharged Volvo 4 cylinders motors and would like to stick one in our 48 Thames panel--one of these days
    hank
    The Volvo was where I was leaning. Mid-'80's are real cheap, with turbochargers. I have a '87 donor car. I was also leaning toward either a speedster or lakes modifided. I was'nt looking for tire fryer, just a daily driver. I build hot rods to drive, not to take-up space in my shop. As far as tires and wheels, I was going to run stock '35 Ford wires, skinny tall tires, fuel
    mileage.
    It is true if you only drive your hot rod once or twice a month, then $3.00+ a gal. is fine, I guess, but for a daily driver you want as many miles per gallon you can get. Ecotec's look neat, but I'm a poor boy that has to do with what I have. I'm not saying bad things about V-8's, I have a SBC, a BBC, and BBF, and SBF engines waiting for future projects. What they don't tell you about ANWAR is the animals live around the pipe-lines, because when the oil comes out of the ground it is boiling hot! It keeps their babies warm, God forbid we should keep the animals warm! And if there is a leak, they'll move somewhere else, Duh.
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    I hear you, we each have our own situations so if you already have a turboed VOLVO that is a strong inducement to use it. I guess I had my head in 1929/1976/1998 sand regarding the ECOtec. I ignored them after they first came out as the 700 HP Hot Rod Drag Caravan but now they seem to have made it to large scale production street status. Thus my only interest is in maybe figuring out an upgrade replacement for my '98 Sunfire. There sure were a lot of the 2.2L 115 HP I4 Sunfires and Cavalier J-Body cars. Somebody out there must be figuring out how to put a "mild" 205 HP supercharged ECOtec engine into an earlier J-body car, although the convertible model I have weighs about 2900 pounds and so is not light, just small. Anybody out there know of a J-body car with an ECOtec transplant?
    Hey, so far nobody mentioned a Riley OHV for a Model-A/B/C block, hah! How about a CRAGAR? The SBC 350 may someday be just as rare as a Riley or a CRAGAR but just for discussion is there any midget racer out there who remembers the HP for the Offenhauser INDY 4-bangers or even the Frontenac OHV conversion for the T-block? It looks to me that there are a lot of similarities between the Offy and the current ECOtec, but maybe this thread should just revert to TinLizard's build up with lots of pictures.

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    Now this right here is a sweet lookin' ride!



    Very cool!
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    Cool car!

    But, I'm anti E85, I think it's going to cost alot of us working class money, and help nothing! If it has to do with corn, we're not going to be able to afford it! The small breweries already been told they won't be able to get hops to make their beer with, because their going to plant corn to sell to make E85, milk & eggs already started to go up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YNOT
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    Very cool!
    i agree and its light enough to drop in a 4 banger plus added power of a turbo NICE
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    Yep. My track T has a 2.5L four-banger and 4-speed tranny out of a 1987 Chevy S-10. I am planning on replacing the TB injection with conventional carburetors. Otherwise, it will be stock for now.

    Click on my name above and go to the thread on my buildup. I am posting it step by step with lots of pics.
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    Ultimately the power comes from fuel combustion so efficiency is the key idea. If I were not involved in a lifelong obsession with a Model-A roadster ('glass replica) I would be looking for a '74-'76 Pinto "frog" and then try to find a Thunderbird turbocharged 2300 Pinto engine, "they" say it is a bolt in! The nice thing about a turbocharger is that you can rig up a dash control for the waste gate and turn it on or off when you want it. Still I would think that more power even from a 4-banger means lower mileage; the power has to come from somewhere and the somewhere is more fuel. Even so as I recall the Pinto mpg was not that good even with natural aspiration. I have tried to "detune" my 350 to some extent for mpg at 250 HP but you know the Buick V6 was heavily touted by Brian Brennen in Rod Action back in the early 1980s as the best all around answer but folks still preferred V8s. The V8 nostalgia lasts until you are gone, for me the ultimate would still be a flathead with finned heads and a beehive oil filter on the firewall but I have tried four flatheads and found all of them to be cracked! Believe it or not someday it will be hard to find a 350 SBC, can you imagine that? Then folks will be looking for Grand National Buick V6 turbo setups! But wait (!) let's find out how Eli Manning likes his new Hybrid Caddy first. Maybe the shocking truth is that in ten years rodders will be running electrics with extra batteries? You have to admit it is easier to set up Nuclear power plants in some remote place and then plug your hybrid into a wall outlet in your garage than to get Congress to give permission to drill in Anwar! All you need then is some sort of secondary small diesel engine to get you home to your wall outlet after your batteries drain down! Let's see what sort of a hybrid Ferrari comes up with, you know some changes are coming but rodders will find a way to soup them up too! Just some ramblin' comments; change is coming!

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    Now I can do a inline 6, even a v-6. Dont get me wrong I love a turboed 4 banger but have never had a vehicle light/small enough where I could install to make me happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver
    Now I can do a inline 6, even a v-6. Dont get me wrong I love a turboed 4 banger but have never had a vehicle light/small enough where I could install to make me happy.
    It does take a light car to make the 4 bangers work best, got to keep the weight below 2,000 lbs and avoid big sticky tires in favor of about 6" of tread on the ground. Cutting down on weight and rolling resistance can really make a well-built 4 cylinder car fly...!!!!! The USAC guys used to make those Iron Dukes fly!!!!!! Horsepower to weight, as with any build, has to be your main consideration.
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    id like to take one of those new ecotec superchared 2.0's and put one in the vega!

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