Thread: One Way To Build A '32 Hyboy
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07-07-2008 01:27 PM #241
Ken, I thought you were kidding about the 12 cylinder Ardun, but now realize you were serious. When I see stuff like this I realize how much of a hacker I am. Where would a person even begin on something that complicated?
I'm happy if I can get an engine together the way it came from the factory!!
BTW, this thread has been one of my favorites on here. Keep the photos and info coming, please.
Don
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07-07-2008 01:33 PM #242
Originally Posted by Ken Thurm
Need some pictures and some details of that one - please - ASAP please How did it start life?? A V12 Lincoln, maybe??Dave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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07-07-2008 03:05 PM #243
Originally Posted by Ken ThurmSteve
1983 Mustang GT
Wolf Pack Car Club - Domestic V8 performance enthusiast club in Edmonton, AB, Canada
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07-07-2008 03:25 PM #244
Didn't GMC make a truck engine that was a V12, that was 2 six cylinder engine with a common crank case. Ken, I like the color choices, my favorite color for interior is dark gray with red piping or stiching.
BradCSome days it's not even worth chewing thru the restraints !
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07-07-2008 10:03 PM #245
I'm very serious about building a V12 Ardun. I bought a Lincoln V12 but haven't received it yet. There are a few problems that have to be worked out. I don't know if the bore center lines are the same as a V8. If they are then I will buy 2 sets of Arden heads and valve covers and cut the last cylinder off of opposing heads then weld them back to together and adjust the head bolt pattern. If the center lines are different then I will whittle a set out of billet. It would be a lot easier to cut and paste.
Here is a couple shots of what I'm going to build.
Ken
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07-07-2008 10:14 PM #246
I don't know Ken, why don't you build something "different" from the pack. That Ardun/ V12 thing is just being done to death in my opinion. Everybody and their Brother has one it seems.
I'll tell you one thing Ken, you sure aren't afraid of a challenge. That truck is going to be sweet and drop some jaws when people look under the hood. I can hear some of the funny opinions of what it is already.
Don
PS, I have a title for this build already. Project $ 300K is underway. lolLast edited by Itoldyouso; 07-07-2008 at 10:16 PM.
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07-07-2008 10:28 PM #247
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
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07-08-2008 05:14 AM #248
Ken,
Did I see your trailer line featured in the latest Street Rodder - Kendon Industries?? Looks like what you were showing us a while back.
The new truck design - love it. Even if the Ardun wont work, the V12 will be a great idea. But....if it does, even betterDave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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07-08-2008 06:47 AM #249
Originally Posted by IC2
Ken
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07-08-2008 07:14 AM #250
ah heck, Ken... Just get the aluminum out.... Heads would look better polished then painted anyway........Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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07-08-2008 07:45 AM #251
Dave-You are probably right, but I want to explore all the avenues first. A few years ago I decided to go Harley Davidson Pro Stock racing. So I built my own engine for that, so this project won't be as difficult as that.
Ken
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07-08-2008 09:34 AM #252
Hey Ken, I did some research on the Ardun, since I had no idea of what you guys were talking about! Funny that one of the links was right back here in 2004, where Bob provided the following link to Ardun. http://www.ardun.com/ardun_histrory.htm
Very cool project idea!
Great idea for the power behind the truck too!" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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07-08-2008 11:46 AM #253
Ken, I was watching some car show last week and they had some clips of the Pro bikes running.............and wrecking!!! One guy's bike went into an uncontrollable death wobble, and he flipped off the bike. Some of the other bike wrecks weren't quite so bad, they simply laid them down.
There isn't enough money in the world to get me on one of those things.
Did you do the driving yourself?
Don
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07-08-2008 02:25 PM #254
Originally Posted by ItoldyousoKen Thomas
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07-08-2008 04:30 PM #255
This story is good for sitting around and having a beer. I will be as brief as possible. When NHRA decided they wanted Harley Davidson to win Pro Stock it was too tempting for me, I had to do it. Ever since I was in my 20's I have built H.D. I knew all the short comings of all the engines produced by them. I was making some products for the EVO motor when this came about. I knew if it was going to be competitive it needed a new dry sump system and cylinder heads and intake manifold. When I was running pro stock cars I new the benefit from building my own manifolds. So we went to work.
I had a LS2 motor in a Corvette and for the life of me couldn't figure out how Chevrolet could get the kind of power and mileage out of it. So I took it out and pulled the heads off, and there it was, the way they made the runners and the swirl port design. So I made a intake manifold with 12" runners with a plenum so both cylinders were tunable the same and whittled a set of heads out of aluminum and made some roller rockers that bolted to the head instead of the rocker box for stability. (there is a lot more to this but, as you can imagine)
It worked perfectly the very first time
We did some crazy stuff trying to make more hp. Once I thought I was pretty smart on what was going on inside the plenum, but it wasn't responding the way I thought it would witha cam profile change. So I cut the face off the end of the plenum and screwed a Plexiglas cover over it and I was only 180 degrees off of what was really going on in there. I bought a chassis dyno and I beat that thing to death, for months. This is all normal behavior for someone who has ever run a pro stocker
I will finish this later here are some pictures of my beast with a couple of different manifolds.
Ken
it's nice to have space, I just keep moving stuff to only move it again and again and again!
1968 Plymouth Valiant 1st Gen HEMI