Thread: One Way To Build A '32 Hyboy
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03-15-2008 10:05 PM #1
Somehow I have been missing your updates Ken, not sure how, but I did.Gotta say WOW!!!!!! Car is really shaping up to be something very special, so many little details to look at. Fascinating thread for sure.
Don
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03-16-2008 07:55 AM #2
Great looking release and latch mechanism Ken.... Sure does get a lot of the ugliness out from under the hood! Hope those will be going on the market soon, light years ahead in styling and function compared to the stuff that's out there now!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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03-16-2008 08:48 AM #3
J. Robinson-Thank you. It's really a machined piece of solid bar inside the tubing that is slotted and notched. If you look at the photo's below you can see little holes drilled in the ends. This will have a roll pin in it that indexes all the slots inside. I put Teflon sleeves inside the tubing so that it works smoothly. Then there are 2 springs inside that the solid bar rest against. One in the front and one in the rear. So when you push on the lever inside the car it releases the side panels and when you pull it it releases the hood mechanism.
If you look at the drawing again you will see a offset in the tubing. This is for a stock fire wall (for my sedan) to mount in the right location.
Again with a LS7 and my firewall being the dry sump tank I can't put any holes in my firewall to mount anything. That's why I'm using a fly by wire throttle. But if you go back to some of my photo's you can see heads of bolts and all kinds of things mounted to it, that's possible because there is actually 3 firewalls in this thing. If I haven't explained this well just ask again.
Don-I thought you were mad at meI read almost every post on this site when I have time, and amazed at what everyone is doing I just don't post enough. Thanks. for your response. I wanted to ask you, on your sons car did you put a front track locating bar on it? I could go back and look at the build but I'm to lazy?
Dave-Thanks, the problem with the things I come up with would be so expensive to produce nobody would pay for it. I make $4.50 an hour so it doesn't matter how long it takes me
Ken
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03-17-2008 05:02 PM #4
Originally Posted by Ken Thurm
Well, I am kind of upset that you have all these beautiful '32's and I don't, but that is another story altogether!
No, Dan decided that he is not going to go with cross steering, so he nixed the panhard. Biggest reason is that he has a complete Pete and Jakes chrome front end sitting to install, and can't weld any bracketry to it. He is going to use a Flaming River box like I and Don have on our cars.
Ken, your car is outstanding, as are all of your builds. The intricate nature of every bracket and part is just so nice to see. It must be something in the water, because you California rodders really go the extra mile to do things so well. When I lived in SoCal I went to a few cruises and shows, and the level of workmanship done out there is jaw dropping.
I can't wait for every update you do, so don't keep us hanging so long!!
Don
PS, I know what you mean about not being able to charge enough for some of this stuff to make any money at it. Dan has gotten a few PM's from people wanting him to build them a set of nerf bars, but it takes us about 12 hours to do one, or more, so how much could you charge and make it worthwhile????? I even came up with a name for them.......Smerfs Nerfs. I told him we could start calling him Smerf....he didn't see the humor in it.Last edited by Itoldyouso; 03-17-2008 at 05:07 PM.
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03-17-2008 06:00 PM #5
Fantastic build Ken. I only have one question though. Where is the building where you pile all of your junk? Anyone that builds cars has a massive amount of stuff they know that they will use someday. My basement is full and the only time my shop was that clean was when it was new.
That truck is beautiful too. Keep up the great work.
Tom
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03-17-2008 10:18 PM #6
Dave-I'm having the time of my life, I just wish I wasn't so old.
Rickomatic-Thanks, I just wish it would go faster.
NTFDAY-Brickman-Thanks, being on this site and showing this to the world makes things come out a little better alsoIt's going in Street Rodder
Don-Thanks Don, let me tell you, you and your sons have nothing to hide. you guys have some very nice stuff. There are a lot of nice cars on this site, I wouldn't so this anywhere else. Still waiting for my photo's
This is what people don't realize sometimes. Last month I went to India and to Thailand to check on some business. So I took the drawings of the hood release with me, just to see if it was marketable with the cost for tooling and manufacturing. The tooling was between $16,000 and $20,000. With machining polishing, chroming, and parts it would cost me about $160.00. Now with insurance, freight, amortizing the cost of tooling, and all the rest of the SGA associated with business, have a dealer price in there it would have to retail for about $500.00 to $550.00. You can buy Dan Finks for $325.00. I don't think I could sell enough to recover. Granted the cost could be dropped once the tooling was paid for.
39Deluxe-I have a room at work where extra parts are. Your right it just accumulates. That's why I do renderings now to help stop changing my mind.
This is the panel under my dash. It's not finished but I wanted to show this so you can see how easy it is to hide ugly parts. The air conditioning ducts will be in there and the final firewall will slip in behind this coming up from the floor. There will be 3 separate area's were their will be insulation installed in the firewall. The access heat from the dry sump tank and engine (no louvers in the hood) should be kept out so the air conditioner should keep the car cool in the summer heat. I hope
Ken
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03-16-2008 08:57 AM #7
Ken,
Very nice hood latch system - I have been trying to figure out how to hold my hood tops down when I am not running with the sides on - (and I really dislike the standard "A" thru '32 latches). I considered bungee cords but thought that tacky even for us East CoastersLast edited by IC2; 03-16-2008 at 09:13 AM.
Dave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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03-16-2008 08:53 AM #8
Wow!!!! You're all the way up to $4.50/hr. on your own stuff???? Think I'm still stuck on about $1.85..... I do know what you mean though.... at the standard shop rate for this area I'd have about $15,000.00 in the Camaro so far, and the Ranchero would be almost double that!!!! But hey, it's still fun so it doesn't matter, right?????Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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03-17-2008 01:29 PM #9
Nice Ken. Very high quality workmanship.
Pride Runs Deep
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03-17-2008 01:59 PM #10
That latch system is ingenious, I believe I'd try to put a patent on it before someone else does.Ken Thomas
NoT FaDe AwaY and the music didn't die
The simplest road is usually the last one sought
Wild Willie & AA/FA's The greatest show in drag racing
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03-17-2008 04:40 PM #11
I'm with ntfday, pretty awesome engineering, should have your name on it. It is truely a joy to watch how it's done by some of the best on the planet, we are truely blessed around here.
I see your truck is in a photo studio, will it be in an upcoming rag?"Sunshine, a street rod and a winding beautiful Ozarks road is truely Bliss!"
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03-18-2008 03:40 AM #12
Thanks for the explanation on the latch system. Your enginuity is amazing.
With the proliferation of Rod Bods and Brookville bodies and Speedway Motors kit cars, Deuce roadsters are becoming almost commonplace. There are so many satin or flat black with red wheels and 350/350's here in Florida that I want to scream when I see one.Your cars, though, are loaded with details and original ideas. I am really ejoying this build. Unfortunately, you are doing such a good job of hiding everything that most who see the finished product won't know what all you've done!
Beautiful stuff; keep it coming!
Hey Don, can you imagine what would happen if Ken teamed up with your son, Dan?Jim
Racing! - Because football, basketball, baseball, and golf require only ONE BALL!
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03-18-2008 06:43 AM #13
Ken, one angle on the hood mechanism is to apply for the patent and then just license the patent to one or more of the Rod Bod companies and let them cope with the tooling costs.
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
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03-18-2008 08:45 AM #14
Don-Thanks, I really like that rear 3/4 shot.
J. Robinson- Thanks for your comments, I always think if you can design something that looks so simple that when people don't notice, or, they just can't figure out how it works, then I have done a good job.
Don- That's a good idea, I'm having dinner with Jerry Kugel Thursday. I think I will run it by him and see what he thinks.
Ken
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03-18-2008 09:59 AM #15
Ken, one angle on the hood mechanism is to apply for the patent and then just license the patent to one or more of the Rod Bod companies and let them cope with the tooling costs.
Don- That's a good idea, I'm having dinner with Jerry Kugel Thursday. I think I will run it by him and see what he thinks.
Ken
That's what I had in mind when I suggested the patent idea, I just explain my thoughts as well as Don did.
I thoroughly enjoy your passion for attention to detail and innovation.
We are blessed on this site to have so many of what I consider to be Master Craftsmen that are willing to share their accomplishments.Ken Thomas
NoT FaDe AwaY and the music didn't die
The simplest road is usually the last one sought
Wild Willie & AA/FA's The greatest show in drag racing
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