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    One Way To Build A '32 Hyboy

     



    I decided to share this hoping people will enjoy it and maybe help spur ideas for there own build. I'm about 2 years into to this, I like to have two projects going at the same time, when I started this I was collecting parts for a '32 truck. Well one thing led to another and the truck became full time and the roadster got very little attention. Now I have this going and a '32 sedan I'm doing, but this is my priority with a dead line of April. So I will show you where I am today then backtrack with photo's on how I got this far then continue with finishing it.
    When I build a car I really try to have a theme and stick to it. I'll start with a rendering and tape it to my tool box so not to stray to far from the original idea.
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    Dearborn Deuce body
    ASC frame rails
    Kugel Komponets independent front end
    Winters independent quick change rear
    LS 7 Chevrolet crate motor
    Richmond 6 speed transmission
    I'll cover the smaller components as I go along. Here is the rendering and the next is my garage at home. I use a small tire or brake shop lift. Usually I do the chassis at work (all the dirty stuff) but this time because how it has worked out the complete car will be built at my house.
    I'm already in trouble the file for the renderings are to large, I'll have to put it up tomorrow.
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    This is what it looks like today. I wanted it to be low but still drivable. I'm using my other roadster as a reference.
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    One of the ways to get the car low is to raise the wheel well. I raised it 2". I like the rear tires tucked in close to the body. Here it is cut out then stepped so there is no material cut off I use the 2" that is being raised as support. Using a step roller it is slid in behind the quarter panel. This makes a very Strong panel, and prevents warpage. Then it is rotated toward the front of the car so there is only one patch panel to make.
    Next is the frame.
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    Very, very nice Ken!!!! Looks like a very well equipped and nicely laid out shop, too.... One question... the mid rise lift your car is sitting on, who makes it and is it hydraulic or air over hydraulic????

    Thanks for the motivation!!!! One of these days I am going to say goodbye to all the customer stuff and concentrate on doing my own cars and projects for a few select friends.... I needed these pictures to remind me that it's all worth it!!!! Keep up the great work, and keep us updated on the progress!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Severson
    Very, very nice Ken!!!! Looks like a very well equipped and nicely laid out shop, too.... One question... the mid rise lift your car is sitting on, who makes it and is it hydraulic or air over hydraulic????

    Thanks for the motivation!!!! One of these days I am going to say goodbye to all the customer stuff and concentrate on doing my own cars and projects for a few select friends.... I needed these pictures to remind me that it's all worth it!!!! Keep up the great work, and keep us updated on the progress!!!
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    Thanks, the lift is hydraulic I will give you the name later. I can't remember!
    Ken

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    Next is the frame, you can see the bottom of the frame where I cut it. This is done so the rear end can be raised in the car to lower it more. That's one of the nice things about a Dearborn car they raise the floor in the trunk area about 4". So I raised the frame rail up to meet the floor. This let me see what else I had to do to make the frame rail lay flat against the floor all the way to the rear of the car. The next shot is where removed it from the car and notched it in the "C" notch. This also allowed me to shorten the frame and move the "C" notch so it is centered in the wheel well. It always bugs me to see a tire that isn't centered.
    Next is clearance for the locating bars that hold the up rights in the wheel well. I just cut out a section in the bottom of the frame then slip in a piece of 1 3/4 x .120 wall tubing and tack it in. Then use a saws all and just follow the bottom of the frame. What is left is a tunnel for the suspension bar to move up and down in threw it's travel.
    I don't like these bars to be way below the frame so that's why I let them move up in the frame for the travel.
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    Well, it's about time you got off your butt and did this thread. You've been teasing us long enough.

    Looks really really good Ken. If any shop or individual does nicer work or turns out a better car, I haven't seen them yet. You have a great eye for these things.

    Last night as Dan and I were working on his I told him you were building another roadster and he asked whose body it was. When I told him Dearborne Deuce he asked if I could turn over Paternity of him to you. He says their bodies are just the best and from seeing your pictures I have to agree.

    Ok bud, you've got the ball rolling now, this one is going to be fun to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
    Well, it's about time you got off your butt and did this thread. You've been teasing us long enough.

    Looks really really good Ken. If any shop or individual does nicer work or turns out a better car, I haven't seen them yet. You have a great eye for these things.

    Last night as Dan and I were working on his I told him you were building another roadster and he asked whose body it was. When I told him Dearborne Deuce he asked if I could turn over Paternity of him to you. He says their bodies are just the best and from seeing your pictures I have to agree.

    Ok bud, you've got the ball rolling now, this one is going to be fun to watch.

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    Thanks Don, I want to tell you and who ever looks at this thing, I keep saying I this and I that, but let me tell you I have some real talented friends that help me. It may be my design but it wouldn't happen without them.
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    OK next is mounting the motor and trans. I couldn't find any motor mounts I liked for the LS motors so I got my crayons out and sketched these out. Took it to a guy that has a Lazar cutter and he cut them out for me. The trans mount is pretty basic, I don't have a picture of that.
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    Really like those mounts Ken!!! Details like this are what separates the best from all the rest!!!!
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    Ken, something I was wondering..........the radiator you posted the picture of the other day had inlet and outlet on the bottom. Is there something special about the way LS motors duct the radiator water? I know zero about those engines.

    Don

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    This is a super excellent build in a very well equipped shop! However seeing this kind of quality drives me near crazy as I ponder my cluttered garage and my favorite rat tail file! All I can do is all I can do but this sort of example is inspirational! Maybe I will clean up my garage this Spring!

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    There is good and bad when you use LS 7. The good is it is a great engine, 427 cu. in. 505 hp. What makes it difficult is the oiling system. With a dry sump you have to put the oil sum where. There just isn't a good place to stick a tank that will hold 8 quarts of oil. So I decided to make my fire wall the tank. It' made out of stainless steel, it's 1" thick. It has 2 air separators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
    Ken, something I was wondering..........the radiator you posted the picture of the other day had inlet and outlet on the bottom. Is there something special about the way LS motors duct the radiator water? I know zero about those engines.

    Don
    Don,
    They flow in reverse from a traditional small block. But I don't know why that would make a difference.
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    hmmmm. Hadn't thought about that, not much room for a big round tank and separator in a roadster, huh???? What does the engine use for an oil pump Ken, got a pic you could put up?????
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