Thread: My 32' made it in HOTROD Mag
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01-09-2004 02:03 PM #16
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RaceDeck
If you believe that anyone out on the salt who is anywhere near setting a land speed record does "everything" himself , you are soooo fooled! ....
So all those old timers out setting records at the flats were all fools?
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01-09-2004 02:29 PM #17
Suedeplymouth:
Quote>"So all those old timers out setting records at the flats were all fools?"
No! all of those "old timers" worked in thier garages with their local HotRod buddies, swapped parts, shared beers, and most importantly shared their stories & experiences ( a group /"team" effort)....A number of my friends who helped out on our SaltRod have been out on the salt since 1955 and hold many many records....None of them are FOOLISH enought to believe that they know everything and go solo, even after 50 years....BTW, have you ever been to the salt?
As far as who I think is a Fool? GuessJorgen Moller - CEO
RaceDeck Garage Floors
http://www.racedeck.com
" Life Member of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club"
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32' Highboy Salt Flats Racer
65' Historic Corvette Roadster
Kirkham 427 Roadster - Painted in 'bare aluminum'
65 Sunbeam Tiger
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01-09-2004 07:40 PM #18
Jorgen,
Congratulations on your new records and the recognition you received in HotRod!
I haven’t gotten to spend much time recently on CHR, but it is disheartening for me to drop in for a visit and see someone trying to rain on a parade... First of all, it looks to me like you took on a formidable challenge in trying to set a new record – then succeeded! I’ll bet there’s a long line of folks ahead of you that worked very hard in setting the previous records, “raising the bar” for the next challenger. Those that have come before you will probably give you due respect and can appreciate your accomplishments.
Isn’t it a shame that some people feel comfortable with their “limited greatness”, most of which is measured against low standards. Don’t worry about your record being threatened by one of these folks, because they never challenge THEMSELVES to such limits.
Good job Jorgen!
Dan J
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01-09-2004 08:27 PM #19
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RaceDeck
[No! all of those "old timers" worked in thier garages with their local HotRod buddies, swapped parts, shared beers, and most importantly shared their stories & experiences ( a group /"team" effort)....A number of my friends who helped out on our SaltRod have been out on the salt since 1955 and hold many many records....None of them are FOOLISH enought to believe that they know everything and go solo, even after 50 years....BTW, have you ever been to the salt?
Well golly theyve been into hot rodding since 55, many even hold records.
Listen here im 3rd generation hot rodder, Ive learned from the best,the meanest and some of the first rodders that were ever in socal. Ive got top end records going back in my family since the late twentys. Anymore to obtain 200 is easy, go buy a superbird and your guaranteed 200+. I do have to hand it to you that doing it with a little 144ci takes some effort.
What can I say, I consider myself a true hot rodder and if the modern version of a true hot rod is called a rat rod then so be it. Ill always prefer speed over style, steel over billet, hot rodding over street rodding.
If you wish to ignore me what can I say but do it and talk to only other street rodders who only care and like street rods.
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01-09-2004 08:52 PM #20
Dan J: Thanks...you have a way with words!
Suede: Wow...you got a lot to say for a guy who is barely in his 20's. So I guess you never have been out there. You stated that "YOU ARE INTO SPEED" and that " EASY to obtain 200 is easy". Well why don't you strap your A** in any open roadster and see if you got the Ba**s to hang on... That is if you can keep it running out their with temps swinging as much as 40 degrees in a day and the adjusted elevation moving up and down between 4000 and 8000 ft above sea levek.....It's easy!
Hey you might come from 3rd gen hotrod family...but from what I can se hear you have not learned or earned anything!
I won't ignore you....your vast knowledge of HotRods is very interesting!
Jorgen Moller - CEO
RaceDeck Garage Floors
http://www.racedeck.com
" Life Member of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club"
http://www.racedeckracing.com
32' Highboy Salt Flats Racer
65' Historic Corvette Roadster
Kirkham 427 Roadster - Painted in 'bare aluminum'
65 Sunbeam Tiger
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01-09-2004 09:14 PM #21
Well excuse me for only ever getting to a few dry lake beds, hell the fastest ive ever been was a bit over 150 in a 289 powered Austin Healy 3000.
Anyways at least I build my own cars and dont have others do it for me. Ill always have more respect for the guy who turns his own wrench rather than just opens a check book."its better to rule in hell, than serve in heaven."
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01-09-2004 09:25 PM #22
Pseudoplymouth: I thought so! And for the record, I do not believe that you have been 150 in anything. The Austin Healy was a great car but not so aerodynamic...that would have to be a helluva 289, and a tricked out suspension on that ride and I doubt you had the skills to build one....though it coulda been your daddy's with you in the passanger seat?
BTW: why are you sitting at the computer on a Friday night...being the BadA** Ratrodder you are? I am sick at home and bored....
KMA.Jorgen Moller - CEO
RaceDeck Garage Floors
http://www.racedeck.com
" Life Member of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club"
http://www.racedeckracing.com
32' Highboy Salt Flats Racer
65' Historic Corvette Roadster
Kirkham 427 Roadster - Painted in 'bare aluminum'
65 Sunbeam Tiger
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01-09-2004 09:41 PM #23
No your right, it was my uncles car Id borrowed it for the weekend, that thing had stock suspension, a little too hot of a 289 and a 4spd in it. It always ran a little radical and stalled a lot. I know he replaced the rear but I never asked with what.
And why am I home, it couldnt be that I only work part time. I know that buying old cars for classic dealers isnt that great of a job but at least I enjoy the hell out of it."its better to rule in hell, than serve in heaven."
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01-09-2004 09:46 PM #24
All kidding aside!
PsuedoPlymouth:
It has been fun messing around, but you should be a bit more open to however anyone enjoys HotRods, StreetRod, RaceCars, ShowCars...Just because I do would not own a "trailer Queen" does not mean the guy who does is loser or poser....Just as when a kid who has not made it on his own yet or someone who has taken the path moving from job to job his whole life....can not enjoy cars and everything about them...They can and do. I choose what I do, so that I could stay involved with industry and the people within it...It is a great life! You only get one ride, so make it count.....
Enjoy your life, what ever you make of it!Jorgen Moller - CEO
RaceDeck Garage Floors
http://www.racedeck.com
" Life Member of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club"
http://www.racedeckracing.com
32' Highboy Salt Flats Racer
65' Historic Corvette Roadster
Kirkham 427 Roadster - Painted in 'bare aluminum'
65 Sunbeam Tiger
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01-09-2004 09:51 PM #25
Okay then man lets call a truce. I may be more into the rat rod scene and your defintely on the street rod side but at least you like performance. Whatever at least were both into rods of one sort or another. Lets just call an end to this, I dont like getting upset on a Friday, I just wanna relax and think about the weekend."its better to rule in hell, than serve in heaven."
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01-09-2004 09:58 PM #26
Sounds good...Enjoy the weekend.Jorgen Moller - CEO
RaceDeck Garage Floors
http://www.racedeck.com
" Life Member of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club"
http://www.racedeckracing.com
32' Highboy Salt Flats Racer
65' Historic Corvette Roadster
Kirkham 427 Roadster - Painted in 'bare aluminum'
65 Sunbeam Tiger
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01-09-2004 10:00 PM #27
Same to you, have a good one."its better to rule in hell, than serve in heaven."
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01-10-2004 06:57 AM #28
Hey RaceDeck, ya got me pumped. Sounds like the salt might be a good home for some of us geezer qualified ex-racer types. I have been there once about 10 years ago, and it was truly fascinating. Congrats on your records. Would you mind an E-Mail with a ton of questions about B-Ville?? El Mirage, Muroc, and B-Ville are some of the places where hotrodding got its start. Maybe a pilgrimmage is in order???? Don't know a heck of a lot about LSR events, but it certainly looks interesting and challenging. I have always found it is far easier too learn something new from someone who has been there rather then pretend to allready be an expert at everything.Last edited by Dave Severson; 01-10-2004 at 07:00 AM.
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01-10-2004 07:45 AM #29
RaceDeck
Have you considered using a 6 cylinder 53 Plymouth engine in your Roadster? according to my calculations the 53 Plymouth should go 300 mph with it's two extra cylinders.
It might be hard to find one because first and second generation hot rodders had no interest in them and most were junked.
AL" Im gone'
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01-10-2004 09:09 AM #30
Dave: I think you would have a blast out on the salt, the people are great, and the whole scene out there has a cool retro vibe. The August event( SpeedWeek) is the biggest, with over 600 entries turning up. By the last 2 days more than 1/2 the entries are headed home with broken cars and grenaded motors. The September and October events are much more low key, but tend to bring out the serious players who are trying for a record...
I am no expert out there, but I am learing a lot from those who are. If you head out, give me a heads up and come see us in the pits.
Al Show: The world record for any street roadster or gas roadster is about 249 mph..that is with a massive "Klien" big-block motor. This past summer we had a few passes at over 200mph. there is a point in a roadster where Horsepower looses out to wind and traction.....at that point your heading down the course back end first ( the 32' is actually more areodynamic going backwards. I am changing out a few things that will hopefully let us set all three class records at over 200mph ( the previous long standing records in this class were 141mph to 146mphJorgen Moller - CEO
RaceDeck Garage Floors
http://www.racedeck.com
" Life Member of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club"
http://www.racedeckracing.com
32' Highboy Salt Flats Racer
65' Historic Corvette Roadster
Kirkham 427 Roadster - Painted in 'bare aluminum'
65 Sunbeam Tiger
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