Thread: On The Hook Two
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06-07-2008 04:30 PM #16
What a great day with the grandson regardless. and the ol' truck sure fit right in with that group ! Thanks for the pics ken, very fun day it looks like."Sunshine, a street rod and a winding beautiful Ozarks road is truely Bliss!"
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06-07-2008 05:14 PM #17
Ken, have you had any conversations with Vertex about the problem? That unit you have is really a nice piece from what I have seen in the magazines, certainly not a cheap piece by any means. They must have some idea what is going on and I bet have seen this before.
Don
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06-07-2008 06:30 PM #18
Don,
I did, here is the problem as for as I can tell. I took the car apart again this morning and the rotor was broke again. Robot and another good INTERNET friend told me to check the amount the main shaft was able to rise, I did. and it only has .005 of rise.
Apparently, there are two versions of this distributor. One is for computers that require an external coil the other like I have in my truck has an internal coil. If you look at the photo in my last post there fix for this is to use this steel ring around the bottom of the rotor with two set screws. The problem with that on my distributor is the set screws will hit the magnetic pick up when it rotates. So Monday I will get another one and put in flush mounted set screws so the clear.
But this is what bothers me. I have about 2200 miles on my roadster and it just broke. I put the new one on and it broke after 10 miles. It fit tighter than my old one to the best of my memory And how does centrifugal force cause it to rise?
The good thing is that everything on my car is out in the open and REAL easy to work on.
Ken
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06-07-2008 06:32 PM #19
Originally Posted by brickman
Ken
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06-07-2008 07:05 PM #20
Here is the two different styles, on the left external coil, (msd and 900 ft. of wire)on the right three wires and your done, positive ground and tach.
Ken
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06-07-2008 08:18 PM #21
Ken, this is a stretch, but I had a '64 Chevy that started breaking rotors when I got on it. Drove me nuts, then I found my one motor mount had broken and the engine was lifting up under torque and the cap was smacking the firewall. In the picture your distributor is very close in there, could this possibly be what is going on in your car?
What made me wonder is that you said it happened when you got on it and that it was fine for 2200 miles. Maybe something has loosened allowing your engine to move around a little?
DonLast edited by Itoldyouso; 06-07-2008 at 08:21 PM.
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06-08-2008 01:05 AM #22
hay ken that mag dosent have somthing wierd like a hollow shaft and crank case presure is pushing the rotor up. probly not but just a thought I KNOW ALL THE RULES AND I KNOW HOW TO BREAK EM TED
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06-08-2008 12:30 PM #23
Ken
I am more motivated than ever to get the truck done. You've once again inspired me. What a great way to turn a setback into a positive day. Your grandson must of had a blast. Nice drive too. Beautifull area, nice scenery and a bunch of nice rods all in one! Is one of those shots in Solvang CA?
P.S.
How's Tina's knee coming along?" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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06-08-2008 01:49 PM #24
Don, I swear I was thinking the something but didn't want to say because the guys may think I had lost it. Yes I thought if the distributor was close and the torque could get it against the firewall it could happen. I think Ken said in the beginning it was hard to get to when he called for the truck.
Richard
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06-08-2008 05:19 PM #25
Don-I checked to see if anything was hitting and the conditions of my motor mounts and that's not it, good idea though.
I have been ringing this things neck since I finished it though, that motor sounds so good around 7000 going threw a underpass
Ted- No i checked and it is solid, but , thanks for the advise.
Steve-Going out with all these guys really motivates me also, I have been working on my new car every second I get. Matthew (my grandson) did have fun, he never asked if we were there yet, or when are we going home. He wanted know were we were going next!!We were very close to Solvang a couple of times, it's just beautiful country there.Going threw Monterey when the 101 goes right by the ocean and you are in a roadster Doesn't get much better, in my opinion. We actually looked at a place in Cambria, I'm close.
She isn't doing very well. They are going to put here back in the hospital put here under again and CRACK her knee. You probably know more what that means than me. I think it means they are going to break the scar tissue up so she has more range of motion?
Richard-Please don't hold back on your suggestions, I am at a loss. I'm going to try the set screw thing tomorrow.
Ken
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06-08-2008 05:29 PM #26
Ken, we had a similar deal many moons ago with a Joe Hunt modded Vertex mag.... When you gassed it, the disributor shaft would climb up the cam gear and snap the rotor.... It was many years ago, but seems like Loren discovered it while playing with the mag on a distributor machine... Think he added a shim or something.... I could track him down next week and get the exact details if you want....
PS---Don't blame me for not remembering all the details, I was just the driver!!!!! They used to right the instructions on the gauge panel for me-----Turn left, go fast!!!! Only took two season for me to memorize the instructions!!!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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06-08-2008 06:06 PM #27
Thanks Ken,
I sure hope you get it fixed soon. I have a true story that happened to me. 1968 I was driving home from work in my 57 Chevy 2dr. ht. All of a sudden the loudest backfire and the engine died. It was on a busy expressway coming out of Chicago no less.
I thought I blew it up had it towed to a friends garage, I was single but had married friends that had garages. Another friend had a 56 Chevy 2dr. wagon not a nomad but a 2dr. I bought the wagon for the engine, I think at that time maybe $100 I pulled the engine myself and took the engine out of the 57 my self. I worked all night long on the switch. Before I actually pulled the engine from the 57 I noticed a wire was off the coil. I had everything disconnected and ready to come out. I was so upset I said to myself I’m not stopping I’m switching anyway.
I have always heard start at the basic’s but it seems like I always think the worst first.
I see someone is having trouble with the knee good luck to her the knee can be very painful.
I had a motorcycle accident 1969 and it’s been bad ever since, 5 surgery’s now it needs to be replaced but I just hate to go through another surgery, I need 4 but at my age I’m not too eager to go.
Richard
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06-08-2008 06:08 PM #28
Originally Posted by ford2customYesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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06-08-2008 06:36 PM #29
Back when my Falcon was stock and still had the points distributor, the rotor did hit the cap once and destroyed the cap and rotor. put new rotor and new cap on, and it was fine, never did it again but I replaced the distributor after the rebuild and I didn't put very many miles on the car b4 I rebuilt the engine.You don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
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1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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06-08-2008 06:49 PM #30
Originally Posted by Dave Severson
Richard
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