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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter
    Well (no pun intended......maybe ) that's one of the two answers I expected. Coming from someone in No. Cal it surprises somewhat. You guys have been at a low level "war" with the folks to the south over water rights for something like 40 years. Your reserviors, e.g. Lake Shasta are reported to be at record lows. Those fine folks down south have a lot of cars. Where's the huge supply of water going to come from to convert into fuel (won't even try to get into where the energy to separate the h from the o will come from).

    Not really trying to pick on you hear, it's just that folks seem to think more clearly when they have to justify their beliefs. And, you may be able to convince me to see something you're privvy to that I'm not.
    Yes our water wars have posed to be a problem, like when we have to ration water while So Cal is filling swimming pools. Or when we get fined for using too much water while the local government is washing the streets to keep median strips green. I happen to be one of the lucky ones that has water year round just 3 feet from the surface. Our sewer charges are based on the amount of water we use X 2. As we pave over everything the ground can't absorb the water so we have flooding like in the mid west. You don't need to use drinking water to make the fuel.

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    Didn’t you guys see this car it has it’s own machine too convert water too hydrogen fuel?

    I mentioned this car in an earlier post but I thought you guys would have seen it on the news but incase not here it is.

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/139528...runs_on_water/

    There is more to the story about the car on this link.


    http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_23767.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by ford2custom
    Didn’t you guys see this car it has it’s own machine too convert water too hydrogen fuel?

    I mentioned this car in an earlier post but I thought you guys would have seen it on the news but incase not here it is.

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/139528...runs_on_water/

    There is more to the story about the car on this link.


    http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_23767.aspx

    Richard
    Ask your self why it take the japanese to do something like this. Their government is not run by big oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter
    I have neither the time nor energy this morning to deal with the notion of the government not taking more of the honestly earned income of a company or individual being called a golden parachute or a gift. If you're a true independent you may not have meant that as you wrote it.

    As for hydrogen being the future fuel it begs the question; where do you get the hydrogen?

    http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkk_0g1...y%3fid=1841989
    Maybe this is honestly earned income or mabe this is the result of being with the chosen few. I personally can not see any justification for making this kind of money honestly.

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    If we could make a car like this run, think of the possibilities. One bottle would run for an hour. Any type of water, if we can store fuel in tank farms, you could save your rainwater. Look at the water and how it is doing so much damage today. Fire When controlled is a good thing When it’s out of control we know the results. Same with water if we could save half of what we use in a week for short errands, we would be doing good. People are buying scooter’s what we used too call Mopeds, or {Cushman’s} spelling may not be correct but the older guys will know what I'm talking about. The point is if it’s possible try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pizzi-man
    http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkk_0g1...y%3fid=1841989
    Maybe this is honestly earned income or mabe this is the result of being with the chosen few. I personally can not see any justification for making this kind of money honestly.

    When I was walking steel beams in the late 60’s on story jobs downtown Chicago, A man told me when he found out that I was making $6.00 per hour he said, “ No man alive is worth that kind of money." If he could see this guys pay per hour!!!

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    Regarding the Chairman (or any other employee of a corporaton) making an outlandish amount of money, it is absoultely NOBODY's business except for the owners of that corporaton. If the corporate owners determine that the employee is worth $400 million, so be it...period.

    The typical guy on the street doesnt realize that any corporation has ONE and only one purpose...that is to make a profit for the owners of the corporation. A corporation does not exist to be a good neighbor, a green entitiy, or to make everyone feel good. This is Economics 101.

    Given that, I find it disgusting that a corporation pays an officer, a manager, a janitor, a nimrod on the assembly line or whatever a high salary when the corporation is losing money. But again, it's none of my business unless I am an owner of that corporation. If anyone is to blame, it's the stockholders of the corporations that tolerate this nonsense. Until the stockholders of the world demand an end to the excessive benefits, they will continue to exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ford2custom
    Didn’t you guys see this car it has it’s own machine too convert water too hydrogen fuel?

    I mentioned this car in an earlier post but I thought you guys would have seen it on the news but incase not here it is.

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/139528...runs_on_water/

    There is more to the story about the car on this link.


    http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_23767.aspx

    Richard
    You've done your fellow CHR's a favor. Everyone who believes this is legit and is the answer to a maiden's prayer should scrape up every dime they can and invest NOW! If you missed Microsoft in the beginning, if you missed Google in the beginning, you might have been able to claim you didn't understand those industries well enough to take the risk. Well, here's something that everyone is an expert on..............time to put up the dough and make a fortune! Time to stop being envious of the "big, rich oil guys"......take some risk, it's the only way you'll ever stand a chance of making it big.

    That being said, that company says they have no idea when they'll be going to market with this car. Not sure why that is, but they know the viablility of their product better than me. What I'm talking about is all the people in this country who seem to be banking on some unspecific miracle, be it solar, wind, bio, or whatever, none of it is ready for prime time. To remain competitive in the world market we need cost competitive energy. The rest of the world is drilling, drilling, drilling, or making long term deals. Other countries are building electricity plants by the dozens, including nukes. Only this country ties it's own hands on energy production.
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    But, Uncle Bob, can't we let someone else have the nuke/well/solar array/miracle piss plant in their backyard?
    I want to save the snub nose fartcatcher!! And let my children's future fail if that's what it takes!!

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    For what it’s worth just my opinion and observation in a way of thinking If a man had $400,000,000 did I put enough 0’s or too many lets see .01 10 100 1000 10000 100000 100000 by George I believe I’ve got it. What would cash and go charge too cash that check?

    If a dollar a day would feed a hungry child WOW how many children could he let go hungry!!!

    Does he get Health Care with the fringe benefits; you know how high they are getting!!!


    I would rather be a happy poor man, then a greedy worried old man trying too think who is after his money but I guess that’s up too his security too worry about.

    Just thinking my opinions, and observations that I’m entitled too.

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    Is anybody paying attention to the fact that it's time to cancel the moratorium on drilling offshore and onshore in this country???? Even GW has figured that out.... Have you checked to see where your representatives and senators are on this issue???? Cuba and China (as mentioned earlier) will be drilling offshore in the Gulf of Mexico within 50 miles of the US....and we're not....

    Don't count on ethanol this year, with the floods we're losing thousands of acres of this year's corn crop.... If you thought the price of corn based food products went up in the last year, wait till you see what happens in the next few months....

    We actually have a chance to do something about the price of oil RIGHT NOW besides talk about alternatives that may or may not ever be financially able to replace good old petroleum.... This would be a good time to let your representatives now that they have the opportunity to actually do something about the problem rather then just blame the other party... Business as usual will not solve this problem, time to do something about it!!!!!
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    Did anybody read today as has too how long it would take even if they got the approval, it would take years too get set up too drill. We would not see the lower price of gas for many years too come. This would not happen in the near future. Sure we need too start that process, drill but the cow has left the barn along time ago so by saying shut the door now is not going too help now. Something has too be done too get the price within reason now. Unless I read the article wrong, the oil companies have 68 million acres leased now how come they haven’t started too drill on that area set-aside for them?

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    just remember that any oil drilled and pumped will not stay at home but will go on the world market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ford2custom
    Did anybody read today as has too how long it would take even if they got the approval, it would take years too get set up too drill. We would not see the lower price of gas for many years too come. This would not happen in the near future. Sure we need too start that process, drill but the cow has left the barn along time ago so by saying shut the door now is not going too help now. Something has too be done too get the price within reason now. Unless I read the article wrong, the oil companies have 68 million acres leased now how come they haven’t started too drill on that area set-aside for them?

    Richard

    I don't think there is a quick fix...we might have to settle for the long term fix.... The oil companies would prefer to drill where they can get the most oil in the least time at the least expense.... Same criteria all successful companies operate with...Efficiency and return on investment....

    As for the cow leaving the barn, you're absolutely correct Richard....and we all stood around and watched the cow walk away, and now we're paying for it.... Bush Sr. is the one who extended the drilling moratorium to 2012 btw....
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