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    Steering box reversal

     



    stock steering shaft enters the box on the right.

    modified box shaft enters from the left.
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    steering arm fabrication

     



    I chopped the spline portion off the steering arm, ground it a bit, made a mandrel (pc of pipe) and slid the spline section onto the pipe so i could turn the diameter on the lathe. I press fit the splined spud into the pipe and welded it. I will need to install a nut on the end of the spline shaft to hold this onto the steering box. The socket will not fit inside this pipe, so i will weld a 1" nut onto the top of the 1 1/4" OEM nut.....i will use the cotter pin to ensure safety....
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    more pics of fabrication on the steering arm

     



    this is how i got the steering shaft straight...i used the dial indicator and tapped lightly until it was concentric and tack welded it....it is within .005"
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    Will your new pitman shaft have support? I considered the same method but decided it was too long to be unsupported so I did this on mine. A bit clunky but funtional and not visible.


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    nice work on the cowl steer

     



    Thanks for the pic of your setup ....i think your design is functional, takes up any misalignment and the farmer style spherical ball flange bearing is the ideal support. I just might change my design to be like yours!!

    Yes, i was planning on some sort of outward bearing located right at the body area, but it would need to be a large 2" plastic bearing or other support structure...finding a sealed 2" ID bearing would be spendy....thanks for the picture and help on this!
    JEff

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    Painting wheels RED

     



    I taped off the tires and painted the wheels ACE REGAL red...this is good paint for $3.99/can. It took one can to do both front wheels..i painted front and back sides. I washed the steel wheels with soapy water and then wiped with acetone to make sure they were clean.

    The rear wheels are ford 5 1/2" wide OEM steel wheels. These are from a donor truck i bought for the project for the rear end, but the rear end was too wide so i scrapped the truck..(i got it for free on Craigslist)....i kept the wheels. I sandblasted the wheels at work, we have a HUGE sandblaster....I primed and painted the rear wheels before mounting the tires....we also have tire machine at work, so that was a freebie also.... That might help keep this project under the 3k max target.
    Jeff
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    Pic of rear Wheels-Tires

     



    Again, here are the cheater slicks and the Ford rear wheels, Ace Regal Red.

    $3.99/can painted both wheels. I primed these too....I need to add that to the list of expenses...

    Free mounting and sandblasting (at work).
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    Drilling Front axle-"Racing holes"

     



    I drilled lightening holes in the front axle...just for looks. I think this looks cools so i figured it couldnt hurt....This is a forged axle, so a few small holes in the mid section shouldnt hurt.....I used my drill press and a UNIBIT...i bought this cheap bit at NOrthern Tool and thought it would be good for a couple holes, and it worked GREAT... i used plenty of oil and slow bit speed. I left the wishbones attached and barely fit the axle into the drill press...but it worked out OK.

    Jeff
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    Tie Rod Stuff

     



    I bought new tie ROD ends....safety first!! this old 1941 front end had decent tie rod ends, but i wasnt willing to take any chances! These tie rod ends are from Speedway motors for $9.99 each. I added antiseize to the threads prior to assembly. I also chopped off an extra mount for the drag link using my chop saw, and ground the end of the steering arm for appearance...I will be using COWL steer or a parallel drag link (parallel to chassis) so i didnt need the extra hole in the steering arm..
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    ASSEMLBLED front end

     



    I assembled the front end, new kingpin bushings, pins, seals, bearings, grease etc....I bought the chrome steering arm for $7.00 at a Swap meet. It has a $10 tag on it, but the guy let it go for $7 bucks.....
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    $1799- 3k PROJECT -I HOPE I MAKE IT!!!!

     



    Here is the list i have so far..i am missing the shipping from Speedway on some small parts, and didnt include gas when i went to the Swapmeet or when i picked up the radiator (using my motorcycle!)....I think there is chance to make it......Project 3k.....I know that the little stuff adds up quickly!

    List as of 7/19/08

    50 radiator grill shell E Bay
    $110 350 engine/trans (300-190 for scrap) Craigslist want ad
    50 2 front tires and wheels Swap meet
    100 front axle Craigslist want ad
    7 steering arm-chrome Swap meet
    -120 Scrap Ford F150-bought for rear end Craigslist want ad
    165 airbags Ebay
    9 airhorn ebay
    50 radiator Craigslist want ad
    20 brake master cylinder Craigslist want ad
    brake lines
    220 Rear -15" cheeter slicks Swap meet
    125 front brakes Ford F100 drums, hubs Craigslist want ad
    20 heim joints-front wishbones speedway motors
    148 Frame steel Winnick Steel
    39.99 Kinpgin bushing kit speedway motors
    100 Ford 9" rear end Kirk-friend
    39.99 bearing kit, F100 to Ford spindle speedway motors
    seat
    driveshaft
    headlights
    12.18 Red paint/primer for wheels 2 cans ACE Ace
    3 tire patch-removed a plug TMS
    20 2 tie rod ends speedway motors

    1799.16

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    I added the cab, box, floor shifter...just over $1800 bucks.
    Rat Rod Price List Project 3k
    Price Item description From
    $630.00 1930s Box and Cab E Bay
    $50.00 radiator grill shell E Bay
    $110.00 350 engine/trans (300-190 for scrap) Craigslist want ad
    $50.00 2 front tires and wheels Swap meet
    $100.00 front axle Craigslist want ad
    $7.00 steering arm-chrome Swap meet
    $(120.00) Scrap Ford F150-bought for rear end Craigslist want ad
    $165.00 airbags Ebay
    $9.00 airhorn ebay
    $50.00 radiator Craigslist want ad
    $20.00 brake master cylinder Craigslist want ad
    brake lines
    $220.00 Rear -15" cheeter slicks Swap meet
    $125.00 front brakes Ford F100 drums, hubs Craigslist want ad
    $20.00 heim joints-front wishbones speedway motors
    $148.00 Frame steel Winnick Steel
    $39.99 Kinpgin bushing kit speedway motors
    $100.00 Ford 9" rear end Kirk-friend
    $39.99 bearing kit, F100 to Ford spindle speedway motors
    seat
    driveshaft
    headlights
    tail lights
    $12.18 Red paint/primer for wheels 2 cans ACE Ace
    $3.00 tire patch-removed a plug TMS
    $20.00 2 tie rod ends speedway motors
    $7.00 1970 Chevelle Floor shifter and cable Swap meet
    $1,806.16

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    WOW! I don't particularly care about the build cost per se, but the component finds etc. are great. Great reading. Personally, I think a 5" chop a little extreme, but what the heck, it ain't my rat. Keep it up. Perley

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    It's really looking good and coming along well Jeff. I know what you mean, I have some of the gold drill bit sets Harbor Freight sells, and they last and last. Some of their stuff is crap, but some is a real bargain.

    Hope you hit your $3K figure.........I KNEW it could be done.

    Don

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    Build continues-rear end FORD 9"

     



    I bought this 9" Ford rear end from a friend for $100. The tag on it says
    "3 L 50" which means 3.50 ratio and L = locking differential. NICE !! It is from a 70 or 71 Ford Bronco.

    When I turn the pinion both axles spin in the same direction. That is good, now i wont need to weld the spiders ......i was going to make this a Lincoln Locker"!! (welded by a Lincoln welder for those who havent heard that one)

    The brake parts are really rusty so i sandblasted them at work. The drums were rusty too...i need new wheel cylinders too. I needed to pound the pistons to get them out...they are shot. A friend has a Bronco with the same rear end and is converting to disc, so i am getting all his good brake parts and will choose the best parts for my car. His wheel cylinders are good too....I hope too use them.
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