Thread: American Hot Rod
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02-07-2004 01:43 PM #1
American Hot Rod
Anybody else been watching this? I saw the finished '56 Chev at SEMA, so that's probably heightened my interest.
I know it's easy for some to take pot shots at Coddington, but those that have been around a while know he came from the trenches. He's worked hard and earned his reputations.........both good and bad!
Just some observations:
-Glad they haven't turned it into as much bickering as American Chopper, but then the Pauls' are big time "stars" now, even have AOL commercials. Of course if AOL had put the millions into customer service/product quality instead of advertising they might not have lost 850,000 customer in the 4th quarter of 2003.
-I'm not surprised Coddington doesn't have any of this old employees working for him anymore (with the exception of Roy the old metal man), the few attaboys he dispenses don't seem very sincere most of the time.
-The first '56 body they dragged in and tore apart shows that even the "pros" can buy a blivit.
-The reality of body work is, if you want them really "flat", you're gonna end up skim coating most of it.
-How does that geeky kid with the ball cap and black framed glasses talk without moving his lips?
-Charley, the body/paint guy, is an employee to die for. Dedicated, honest, hard working, doesn't whine, and knows what he's doing..........must be that Idaho upbringing. If I were to get back into that business again I think I'd hire him away.
-Discipline and morale must be a problem around there, half the time some of the workers don't show up. Might go back to why there aren't many old timers there.
-Seems weird to have the ex-wife as the bookkeeper, and the trophy wife working there too. Maybe that's the only way the ex can get the money they settled on.
-Speaking of money and bookkeeping, notice how they need a check each time something's delivered? Could it be that when he went banko last time he burned too many bridges? Or do they just recognize they're not too good at managing the business so they control spending by working on a cash basis?
-Nice to see them throw a birthday party for the mentally retarded cleanup guy. Looked like he had a blast. Shows there probably is a heart under those Hawaiian shirts.
-Lookin' at some of the cars in the background there are some nice rides comin' down the pipe. Although I'll bet their owners don't like seeing them just sitting there while the whole crew focuses on the show car...................especially if they think they're ahead on their progress payments.
-For all the whining we hear about the economy there are a lot of high dollar cars in there. Oh I forgot, this is an election year, so it's mandatory for about half the people to believe EVERYTHING is terrible no matter what reality is.
-For anyone who pays attention there is a lot to learn in this show even though the process is highly edited, and the producer's main goal is entertainment. For all that the film people probably aren't true car guys, they've managed to mix in a balanced dose of real world fabrication "problems" that even a pro shop runs into.
-That machined banjo style rearend in the Model A coupe is really something! (Ooops, that may have been on my buddie's local TV show that you guys don't see, can't remember now)
-No matter what you think of the guy, Coddinton's got "the eye"! (Although I really hate that yellow and blue color combo he did on the GG giveaway roadster)Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
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02-07-2004 02:46 PM #2
Bob; I like to watch some of the shows to but I don't think I've seen that one. But I watch Jessie James/motorcycle/ and junk yard wars and some other stuff like that. Now I know people are gonna say junk yard wars? Why? Well you can really learn some cool tric's for modifications. And you get to watch some people make butt heads out of themselves. Getting mad really doesn't pay,we should all know that right.
Vegas
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02-07-2004 04:10 PM #3
Don't think I could work for Coddington too long, seems like a jerk to me. Takes himself way too serious. hmmmmmm Maybe the ex owns so much of everything she has to be there. He does turn out some very nice cars.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-07-2004 04:14 PM #4
I dont watch any of those "chopper" shows or any of the billet car shows. All they show you are useless show cars and bikes, I believe cars and bikes aremade to be driven, not shown."its better to rule in hell, than serve in heaven."
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02-07-2004 04:33 PM #5
Hey Suede, cars can be shown and driven. Not everything with billet is a trailer queen, and not everything with primer on the body is a record holder. Being a hot rodder gives me the right to build what I want the way I want to build it, but it does not give me the right to put the bad mouth on someone else's ride just because it is shiny and pretty. Beleive me, we can all take some useful hints on fabrication and aesthetics from these shows. I never have claimed to know it all, It makes learning so much more difficult.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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02-07-2004 05:16 PM #6
I have been impressed with the last 2 American Hot Rod episodes. I'm not sure I would appreciate my new Boyd built '56 Chevy being referred to as the "junk yard dog" especially when you know what the average Boyd built car is worth,lol...It seems Charlie is very loyal and knows his way aroudn the shop very well..hated to hear that his father had cancer..lost my mom in 2000 from cancer..know how he feels.......I like these type of shows..a lot more entertaining than 90% of the other sitcom shows.
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02-07-2004 06:46 PM #7
I find myself tuning more often to Discovery Channel, TLC, Speed Channel, etc., as a matter of fact they have become the main stations i watch. Im just sick of regular tv and like to see whats happening in the real world, and they also have programs on things im interested in. Rodder/builder shows, good or bad are still better then anything else on the boob tube
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02-07-2004 08:27 PM #8
OK it's not like I'm an old hand at Hot Rod building or anything but some of the stuff they pull on there is so stupid I find even myself screaming at the TV.
Example-reworking the door latch. Here they are paying guys serious buck to jack with a busted up, old latch when for the same money they spent on labor they could have just ordered in a new latch. Same goes for the hood hinges, no wonder Boyd went bankrupt last time he ran a business.
Oh and Boyd, what a JERK. I'm really surprised he can keep even the untalented, unskilled people around for very long. I'd be very curious to see what his turnover rate is like.
Abe
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02-07-2004 09:30 PM #9
How does
How does that machinist talk without moving his lips? How do you know when he is lying? Went bankrupt? Well with machinist making little wheels and "stealing" tools from across the shop I guess it could happen. Yeah I might be a little bummed to see my car in the background while everyone in the shop is working on the "Junkyard Dog". Then again we don't see what happens when the camera is in the paint booth or the office. It is a good show and much better than the first. Anyone watch "Rides" on TLC tuesdays at 9:00? Odd things happen there too.
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02-07-2004 10:47 PM #10
I really look forward to watching this show. I think Charlie really helps set the tone of the shop with the character setups of the various employees. It's cool to see the detail that's put into the work performed. I don't know much about Boyd's buisiness acumen but I do know his reputation for quality built cars, it is funny to see some of the guys running into the same problems I do on my own Rod. I really get a kick out of the machinist everyone is talking about, actually he is the head of that part of the shop. I only regret we didn't get to see him jump that ramp on his wheel skates. That would have been a real hoot! I don't think Boyd is so bad, he seems to really care for his guys. I also get a kick out of his ex, who hasn't seen someone like this in their workplace. Hearing Boyd went bankrupt before I think she is helping that from happening again, and it's lots of fun seeing her do that. I only hope we get to see more shows and more Rods!
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02-07-2004 10:54 PM #11
I really look forward to watching this show. I think Charlie really helps set the tone of the shop with the character setups of the various employees. It's cool to see the detail that's put into the work performed. I don't know much about Boyd's buisiness acumen but I do know his reputation for quality built cars, it is funny to see some of the guys running into the same problems I do on my own Rod. I really get a kick out of the machinist everyone is talking about, actually he is the head of that part of the shop. I only regret we didn't get to see him jump that ramp on his wheel skates. That would have been a real hoot! I don't think Boyd is so bad, he seems to really care for his guys. I also get a kick out of his ex, who hasn't seen someone like this in their workplace. Hearing Boyd went bankrupt before I think she is helping that from happening again, and it's lots of fun seeing her do that. I only hope we get to see more shows and more Rods!
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02-07-2004 11:09 PM #12
Originally posted by Mempho
I really look forward to watching this show. I think Charlie really helps set the tone of the shop with the character setups of the various employees. It's cool to see the detail that's put into the work performed. I don't know much about Boyd's buisiness acumen but I do know his reputation for quality built cars, it is funny to see some of the guys running into the same problems I do on my own Rod. I really get a kick out of the machinist everyone is talking about, actually he is the head of that part of the shop. I only regret we didn't get to see him jump that ramp on his wheel skates. That would have been a real hoot! I don't think Boyd is so bad, he seems to really care for his guys. I also get a kick out of his ex, who hasn't seen someone like this in their workplace. Hearing Boyd went bankrupt before I think she is helping that from happening again, and it's lots of fun seeing her do that. I only hope we get to see more shows and more Rods!Objects in my rear view mirror are a good thing unless,.... they have red and blue lights flashing.
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02-07-2004 11:15 PM #13
Sorry, my finger gets too fast for it's own good sometimes
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02-08-2004 02:59 PM #14
I guess I'm like most when it comes to Boyd and what I think, but he not a personal friend and therefore I probably don't really know him. You do know that he and Gary Meadors are twins, as they shop at the same store and dress alike. Anyway, I like the show as it gives me a look at the pro's having the same problems with fit, overheating on new engine, etc. I like the fact that there is a bunch on new young guys (anything under 60 is young) that are carrying on metal work and the like, this is especially true of the kid from WY Tech. There a lot of these guys out there with a true interest in building cars. I always watch it. Its damn sure better than Showtime and Lifetime Network. I would really like it if Ron Covell had a show like this where we could really see how it's done. Or maybe even a Popular Hot Rodding show.
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02-08-2004 07:11 PM #15
video series
I think that Ron Covell sells a video series. Yes panel pounding is an art. I hope to learn it some day, damn this fiberglass kit car!
Thank you Roger. .
Another little bird