Thread: title legality?

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I wonder more WHO BILLY ZZ is?

I find this a very interesting subject seeing that I soon will be titling my car. Not that it makes any diff. but where do they get all these titles. Like the guy on ebay (same guy) keeps coming up with titles,how can you possible keep coming up with same year model diff. people on titles. Keep this subject going pros and cons. so far I feel like Don THANKS

Originally Posted by Ken Thurm

I think this was already posted. This is what's happening here. I'm seriously thinking of selling my cars. My new unfinished roadster will be impossible to register here under the new law.
Ken

Ken,
When I read the first SEMA announcement of their "accomplishments" with the CA legislature I could not believe that anyone would see the process as a positive step. Seems to me that they are simply looking for a way to phase out the licensing process for anything other than OEM equipment, or to make those that want to play pay for the privilege of working through their system. I am surprised to see someone like Pete Chapouris singing praises of SEMA's work in this arena. I think SEMA crossed the line and got the wool pulled over their eyes, just my opinion.

Felt the same for awhile Roger..... But after a bit of chatting with others involved in Hot Rodding and Motorsports in California I think it was a success for SEMA-----I don't think when dealing with California there was anything else that would have even been a consideration!!!!! Not a good law by any means, and IMO California will only make it increasingly miserable for a Hot Rodder....until they're all gone.... Perhaps the only alternative for SEMA was to throw their hands in the air and give up the whole battle?????????

I have lived in ca for 63 yrs.but not much longer built my business raised my daughter here and loved it. but the last 10 yrs. the public service unions actually run the state it's unbelievable the only thin that matters is how well they are taken care of throw in 10 million illegals on the doll and you have an unfix able situation I have 8 acres on Georgetown Denver rd. in Georgetown fl. that we bought back in 1970 and I will be there in march to see it for the first time and find a contractor to build a shop and house on it and hopefully sell out here next year and move.......ted

Originally Posted by ted dehaan

I have lived in ca for 63 yrs.but not much longer built my business raised my daughter here and loved it. but the last 10 yrs. the public service unions actually run the state it's unbelievable the only thin that matters is how well they are taken care of throw in 10 million illegals on the doll and you have an unfix able situation I have 8 acres on Georgetown Denver rd. in Georgetown fl. that we bought back in 1970 and I will be there in march to see it for the first time and find a contractor to build a shop and house on it and hopefully sell out here next year and move.......ted

Friend of mine out in Corona is pulling out right after Christmas holidays, same for him, lived there since the late 50's, his new address will be in New Mexico!!!!!

Sense this is a open discussion, and a very important open discussion at that. maybe just bouncing a few ideas around that will help folks get there cars registered would be a good thing.

I have just recently, about a year and a half ago, moved from Ca to Alabama. I whished that I had made this move 10 years ago. Life here is so much easier and simplier than in Ca. the political climate there makes every part of daily life a real chore. But last time I checked California is still a part of the Union, and being a part of that Union should ( I almost said MUST) abide by the established laws of the other states. By that I mean if you do in fact have your Hot Rod "Legally" registered in another state, California should respect that registration. So if ( IF) I am correct in that what is keeping folks from registering in another state, or buying a car built and registered in another state, with that car being complettly legal there, and just transfering this perfectly legal registration to California.

This appears to me to be a way around this problem, but I sure could be missing something. Show me the error of my thoughts.

Dave, SEMA may be trying what ever they can do make these cars legal. But from Thurms post it would seem that Pete Chapouris and SEMA took a damn strange path around the barn.

RS

Originally Posted by Bruce lee

I wonder more WHO BILLY ZZ is?

I know who he is from another forum I lurk on.

As far as selling titles to cars that you do not own. Even if the car is long gone, crushed, melted down, etc, it is still a FEDERAL OFFENSE to move a VIN from one vehicle to another without Federal approval. If you just spent a ton of money on your car, why would you risk government seizure of your pride and joy just because you did not feel like following the legal way of titling it?

Bill S.

Disclaimer: (this is aimed at one particular end user who continues to post a draw full of old titles for sale over and over again)

CHR does not play party to secondary title sales like this, and any and all advertisements for these items are removed just as soon as they get posted on the forum.

I have lived in ca for 63 yrs.but not much longer built my business raised my daughter here and loved it. but the last 10 yrs. the public service unions actually run the state it's unbelievable the only thin that matters is how well they are taken care of throw in 10 million illegals on the doll and you have an unfix able situation I have 8 acres on Georgetown Denver rd. in Georgetown fl. that we bought back in 1970 and I will be there in march to see it for the first time and find a contractor to build a shop and house on it and hopefully sell out here next year and move.......ted

Originally Posted by Bruce lee

I wonder more WHO BILLY ZZ is?

what do you want to know?
i am a 46 year old guy that is on his 1st build and i live in colorado.
who are you?

BTW thanks for clarifying this title thing everybody.
on it's face it looked crooked.
and now i know.

Originally Posted by Hombre259

Dave, SEMA may be trying what ever they can do make these cars legal. But from Thurms post it would seem that Pete Chapouris and SEMA took a damn strange path around the barn.

RS

I agree, but I don't think they could really have done anything else, deck was really stacked against them in Ca....... It's a dang shame, but maybe it's just time to leave the whole dang state to the bunch of phony ******** running the place??????

I was talking with my friend out there in Corona, his opinion is that the real (unpublished) unemployment numbers for California are over 20%, and now the government is doing their best to do away with how many more millions of dollars of business and jobs in the state?????

On the registration and emissions crap, they get away with that because Federal law sez that no state can have standards or requirements that are lower then federal standards....and the State of California has taken that to the extreme in doing their best to outlaw anyone who even knows how to open their hood, let alone build a Hot Rod!!!!! Of course it's not right, but nobody (ie, the majority of the residents of the state) seems to have any desire to do anything about it....

the bottom line is
in 1 hour i saw a man get a VIN plate attached to the firewall of his car
and another get his title confiscated.
i am gonna do it like the first guy....

Originally Posted by billy zz

the bottom line is
in 1 hour i saw a man get a VIN plate attached to the firewall of his car
and another get his title confiscated.
i am gonna do it like the first guy....

Yuppers, that along with Bill's post fairly well clarifies what a guy should be thinking when he does the title and registration deal on his pride and joy........

dave ask your friend about the fact is if you take all the public employees fed. state .co, and city. out of the equation, the rate is 48% and rising and they can't be laid off or fired....ted

Originally Posted by ted dehaan

dave ask your friend about the fact is if you take all the public employees fed. state .co, and city. out of the equation, the rate is 48% and rising and they can't be laid off or fired....ted

Yeah, he was telling me something about it, but I didn't have the numbers so I didn't add that....... and they wonder why the state is so broke??????