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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Coyote View Post
    Everything went fine ........... I took them a list of the parts that had to be accounted for, they agreed with no issues .......... will account for all of the parts and prepare the car for shipment ........... told them I hated to do it but that I had to get the car finished ............. they understood and even seemed a little bit relieved ............. I think they bit off way more than they could chew when they started this ............. these guys are fantastic body and paint people ........... but they are lacking in fabrication skills ............ and this car was too much for them to handle
    Coyoye, may I make a suggestion. Check out the Hot Rod shop over in Welcome, NC. They do really good work. Complete builds.
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    Good, it sounds like it went well. You might want to email the owner with a "question" about something and in it confirm everything you guys verbally agreed to. If they respond to the question and don't refute the other statements you have something in writing showing they pretty much agreed to what you wrote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazyrat View Post
    Coyoye, may I make a suggestion. Check out the Hot Rod shop over in Welcome, NC. They do really good work. Complete builds.
    If you're talking about Rod Crafters in Welcome, I can't get the car in there for another year or so ............. Larry has 11 cars in there now ......... found a shop over in Advance that can take it ............ small shop, but their work is impressive

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    Sorry about naming it wrong, yes, Rod Crafters is the one I was thinking of.

    My brother had a car in there for about a year and just got it back. Now I have to retrack my statement about them doing good work after seeing what his looked like. I wasnt impressed at all with the quality of the work they did on his. Trunk lines didnt line up nor did one of the doors. He had to redo one of the tunnel bolts because it was put in crooked.

    For what he paid I would have though the car would have been in primer to say the least but it wasnt, still bare metal.:eek
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazyrat View Post
    Sorry about naming it wrong, yes, Rod Crafters is the one I was thinking of.

    My brother had a car in there for about a year and just got it back. Now I have to retrack my statement about them doing good work after seeing what his looked like. I wasnt impressed at all with the quality of the work they did on his. Trunk lines didnt line up nor did one of the doors. He had to redo one of the tunnel bolts because it was put in crooked.

    For what he paid I would have though the car would have been in primer to say the least but it wasnt, still bare metal.:eek
    I have not been all that impressed with Rod Crafters either ........... but my problem has been more with the attitude rather than the quality of the work ........ every time I have talked to Larry about doing anything on my car, his attitude has been pretty much "I'm not sure I can waste my time with you" ............. I guess my cash isn't the proper color of green for him.

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    The only problems we've really had building cars all came about when outside shops were involved..........painters, upholsterers, etc. I'm pretty good about spelling out what I want done and the timeframe I am working in, yet they seem to forget those elements once the car is in their shop.

    It is SO hard to get people to do what they promise.

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    After being in the industry myself for about 27 years,I think,as was mentioned elsewhere,the biggest problems with this sort of work,is that shops get insurance work rolling through the doors every day,which pays the wages,and there is never enough time to get any constructive work into the big build sitting in the corner,so,it sits,and only gets a small proportion of the labour it should be getting...I have done enough of this to know that the shop owner wants the glory of getting a job like this through his shop,but cant afford to put the best guy for the job,on the job..So it sits,and every few weeks,it gets a marathon effort for a day or two,to please the owner,who is due in to check on progress,and to grease the palm of the shop owner,then it all relaxes for another few weeks...Correct??
    I do sympathise with you old coyote,as I have been on the shop floor trying my best to get the job done,for people like yourself,and all the time,trying to get the boss man to see it from both sides..I hope the rest of the build goes well for you,I am a fan for these little English Thames/Anglia vans,and will enjoy seeing the finished product...Now I better get off my butt and go and finish a job I have sitting in the shop..
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    Just to put my own mind() at ease something positive happened this week to at least partially restore my faith in outside shops.

    On Monday afternoon, I left the ho hum black Lokar supplied shifter and e-brake boots at a local upholstery shop to have some replacements made in the color of my car interior. They were also to be made 2 inches longer (ever tried to fit a Lokar boot under their retaining rings?) I supplied a small piece of left over material and was told it would be a couple of weeks - no big deal. This morning at 8:30 I got a call to pick them up as they were done. They were not only done, but the price was several bucks less then quoted - and they are beautifully sewed. Now I have 2 more items to add to my swap meet pile of "treasures"
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    Quote Originally Posted by lamin8r View Post
    ..So it sits,and every few weeks,it gets a marathon effort for a day or two,to please the owner,who is due in to check on progress,and to grease the palm of the shop owner,then it all relaxes for another few weeks...Correct??
    How correct you are ........... but since September it didn't even get the mararthon ............ it just sat

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    Just a side note. About 2 1/2 years ago I took my T body and Dons T body to a friends shop to have them painted. He said two weeks. I didn't bother him for 3 weeks, but then I went by to see how they were doing. They were sitting in the same place we parked them, zero done to them, and an inch of filler dust from other jobs all over them. I went home, got my trailer, came back, and hauled them to a second shop who finally got them done.

    I just spoke to another friend who tells me the shop that dropped the ball on us is now closed and my "friend" was over to see him for a job. I'm not surprised. It's tough enough to stay in business when you please customers, but when you don't................................

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