Thread: My hot rod plans

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Ok, what dad told me was that the Chrysler 12" drum brakes had one wheel cylinder per shoe. Unlike like Ford and General Motors using one wheel cylinder per wheel.
The weight of the car as dad had it was 3,000 pounds. From 60 mph to 0, he got the car stopped in under 200 feet without skidding. Discs might be great for other people for their cars, but for me and mine, I'm keeping what's on it.

In the final analysis, that is what really matters...........it's your car and you want it to reflect your Dads and your own touches. It would be a very boring hobby if every car looked the same and had the same components. If I want to see that I go to my local new car dealer.

As for your transmission choice, just another option. One of our members, Bill, (Gastrick) has a really sweet old school 32 coupe with a Hemi. He is using an adapter (I think from HotHeads) to run a TH350 transmission behind it. Makes a very nice, smooth, easily repaired setup.

Sometimes the transmissions that were used behind cars like your Hemi can cost so much to rebuild, IF you can find a qualified transmission guy to do it, that it makes more sense to simply adapt a different transmission. I had to make that decision for the 394 Olds I am going to use in my rpu. It had the original Olds 4 speed Dual Path transmission which weighed about a ton, and rather than having it freshened up I bought an adapter from Bendtsens Transmissions so I can run a TH 350. I figure if the transmission would ever go out 500 miles from home I can find someone who knows a 350, but just try to find one who knows how to fix a 46 year old Olds transmission.

Keep us posted on how the car is coming, and we LOVE lots of pictures.

Don

I'll take and post pics when I can.
There is a local transmission shop that I'd trust to work on anything I could ever bring to them. I'll call one day just to get an idea on a price for building up the C6.
I want to keep as much of the car as possible Mopar and Ford, but it'l depend on money when it's all said and done.

I was just thinkin' about the transmission. Surfin' around, I found an adapter for the 392 to a Chrysler A904 (small block transmission) for the ridiculously low price of $475.
http://www.riley-auto.com/ADAPTERS.html
If this were my project, I would take into consideration the total cost involved in getting the drivetrain into place. The C6 might be free, but if you can't find an adapter for it, then it is a moot point. And if you do find an adapter and it's $1000., then that isn't a good plan either.

Rescue an A904 from a boneyard and have it rebuilt or score a rebuilt unit if you trust the builder. I'm just thinkin' that an all-Mopar drivetrain would be neat.

This is just with some quickie surfing, there may be even better deals out there with another type of transmission.

Sure you all can say that I'm wrong, and then say to stop beating the horse, that you guys are beating!

I Never said that drum brakes were better brakes, if fact I said I had disc's all around! I said they had more braking power!!! Read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote!

Fact: Drums do have more braking power to stop a wheel from turning, they rotate and lock themself which make more gripping on the drum, less work on your leg. Power brakes only became because when disc's were started to be used, they took alot more force to push, to get them to stop!
Drums have smaller masters & smaller wheel cylinders, easier to work, Disc's have to use larger wheel cylinders (caliper) because of the force it takes to pinch a spinning disc, which take a larger master cylinder to push enough fluid to move the enough, If you didn't have power to help move it, you'd need to pump the pedal to move enough and would kill your leg in traffic! I didn't say drum didn't fade with use from heat or water.
I didn't say that alot of drag racers use drum over disc's either, but they do.

But disc rears is not going to help, unless you drive enough to heat them to fade! Most do it for looks, or to say they have them!

Why does American cars come with drum rears and foreign don't?

Some of you can build nice cars, but you can't read whats writen!

Read --> http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-p...ower-brake.htm

You guys then wonder why new & some old people don't post or come back on this site, you run them off with your stupid Bitch'n and down talking.

Who's next?

Pat

Hopefully you can come up with a 727, just seems it would be the way to go behind the Hemi, or Richard's idea on the 904 would be a very viable alternative, too. Friend of mine tried running a C-6 behind a well build 501 BBF and had a lot of grief with it... suppose it could have been the shop's error. I'll put in the 2nd vote for keeping the transmission in the MoPar family....

Originally Posted by techinspector1

I was just thinkin' about the transmission. Surfin' around, I found an adapter for the 392 to a Chrysler A904 (small block transmission) for the ridiculously low price of $475.
http://www.riley-auto.com/ADAPTERS.html
If this were my project, I would take into consideration the total cost involved in getting the drivetrain into place. The C6 might be free, but if you can't find an adapter for it, then it is a moot point. And if you do find an adapter and it's $1000., then that isn't a good plan either.

Rescue an A904 from a boneyard and have it rebuilt or score a rebuilt unit if you trust the builder. I'm just thinkin' that an all-Mopar drivetrain would be neat.

This is just with some quickie surfing, there may be even better deals out there with another type of transmission.

Thanks,

I looked again just now, I could have sworn I'd seen C6 adapters for the same price as the Mopar. I should do a search every few days just to stay on the ball. I see 727s alot more common than the A904 so I'm wondering if I'd be just as well with one of them. I still have a very long time before I'll be ready to buy anything, but I'd like to do as much research ahead of time and have a definate plan of action.

Originally Posted by gsp392

Thanks,

I looked again just now, I could have sworn I'd seen C6 adapters for the same price as the Mopar. I should do a search every few days just to stay on the ball. I see 727s alot more common than the A904 so I'm wondering if I'd be just as well with one of them. I still have a very long time before I'll be ready to buy anything, but I'd like to do as much research ahead of time and have a definate plan of action.

If you plan to do a lot of beating on the car, you might be better off with a 727, but I see a ton of little Darts and such with 365's and 408's at the drags using the A904. Usually these guys will tell you that the car is a little quicker with the lighter duty trans because of the weight of rotating components and you know these drag racer guys, they'd sell their kids for a tenth quicker in the lights.

Originally Posted by techinspector1

If you plan to do a lot of beating on the car, you might be better off with a 727, but I see a ton of little Darts and such with 365's and 408's at the drags using the A904. Usually these guys will tell you that the car is a little quicker with the lighter duty trans because of the weight of rotating components and you know these drag racer guys, they'd sell their kids for a tenth quicker in the lights.

I want something that'l take every bit of what I put to it. I'm going to run 10inch cheater slicks and I don't want to have to worry about anything breaking, so I'm thinking nothing less than 727.

I got a quote today for a used 727 for $150 out of a junkyard. I'll use it as a core to build up. Does that sound like a good price?
Also, I'm going to run a crossram 2x4 on my 392. I plan on that, plus headers and a very stout cam. Any ideas of how much power that will make? Are there other things I can do within reason to get more power aside from roller rockers and roller lifters?