Thread: First ride in 11 years!!!!!

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Don you really did buy a Caddy huh? I saw a pic in another thread, but didn't take it in for whatever reason. you must have gotten a small fortune for your '23 and congrats on getting the '27 back on the road. I hope to take my car for a first drive down the street this weekend. I've been waiting on an O ring from Wilwood for my clutch master for two weeks. I first guy I talked to about it went MIA and the second guy thinks he forgot to send it the first time . I looked a couple places, but can't find one that big..

Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

The way those jerks in DC piss away money it shouldn't be any problem. Nobody should be responsible for their own medical costs right? It's just under a mil: http://www.allegromedical.com/mobili...r-p560811.html

Well, it certainly got some good customer reviews Uncle Bob! Ordered one, just hope the noise doesn't upset the neighbors too much!!! Gotta do some more planning thought, ya can't buy jet fuel here in Madison...Bummer....

Wow once again missed a thread! Don that's super cool. I really like how the windshield looks since you trimmed it down. Also like that it has the original decals still intact. This one looks very nostalgic. Something about the body style with the down curve over the rear axle. Makes it look really old school.
Hopefully you can get one of the boys to take a video of you driving it and post it for us! Everytime some one here completes a car to the roadtrip point, I get more inspired to tackle the truck. Thanks for the updates.

Originally Posted by Bob Parmenter

Since you can't always count on the boys for transport an old Florida Fogey like you needs one of these for backup:

Bob I want one! Imagine navigating Walmart in one of those!

I've editted my original post to take out all the unfair things I said about the way my interior was coming along. I'm a dummy, what can I say????? It will be fine when finished.

Don

I've got to say that I agree with you Don! Just not what I would call "old school"... and that wide spacing just doesn't work at all. Sorry....

No, I know. What do you think if they were cut in half with stitching down the center of each? Would rolls 1/2 of 2 and 3/4 be too narrow?

Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

No, I know. What do you think if they were cut in half with stitching down the center of each? Would rolls 1/2 of 2 and 3/4 be too narrow? Don

I think it would be better. But, is that what you asked for? I guess it's easy for "us" to say yea or nay on a subject but you and the guy discussed what you wanted. If your paying for it, then you better get what you wanted!

Or be "easy enough" to live with it. The rest of the car came out so nice, it would be a shame if the interior doesn't "keep up".

Thanks for airing it out tho'!

Yeah, Don and I just had the same discussion. I realize the guy didn't have much room to work with because the upholstery couldn't be too thick or there would be no room for me. So I told him to keep it on the thin side. I am pretty accomodating and put these things into perspective, like this isn't the end of the world. BUT, this will be probably the last interior this car ever gets, so it should be in keeping with the rest of the style.

Does anyone think if those pleats were cut in half they would be ok?

Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

I've said a bunch of times that the only problems we have building a car is when we involve an outside tradesperson to do something like paint or upholstery...........I'm still batting 1,000.

The guy who is doing my 27 upholstery called last night and asked if I could come to his shop today to sit in the seat before he covers it to see how it feels. Today I took the 75 mile drive to his shop to do that. To say I am a little disappointed in the job is an understatement. His workmanship is ok, but instead of him doing the traditional hot rod interior we discussed, he got artsy on me and took some liberties with the black side roll at the top. He said "I thought I would dress it up for you a little."

I didn't want a street rod interior, I wanted a hot rod interior.........there IS a difference. I thought every upholsterer in the world understood old school rolls and pleats, but evidently not. The guy who did my 23 screwed the first interior up to a fairtheewell, and I made him redo it. Now I had to tell this guy that I am not happy with the one in the 27, so he is having to tear up his work and start over.

The two issues I have with it are:

1) The black roll around the top of the sides should NOT dip down, it should be straight.

2) The pleats are 2.75 inches wide, I wanted narrow pleats. I can live with the width thing, but am going to ask him to cut them in half with stitching to make them narrower.

Look at these pictures and give me some opinions, please. I had a lot of time to think on the hour and 15 minute drive home, and I am not very happy right now. I called Don and sent him pictures, and he agrees. I also know Dan will NOT take his car to this guy once he sees these pictures. Dan is super fussy about every bolt in his car, and a top can make or break a hot rod. If this guy didn't understand rolled and pleated, what will he do on the top?

Aaaaarrrrgggg! You will have to excuse me, but I am just a little frustrated now.

Don

4 words

NOT TRADITIONAL

&

BUTT UGLY


I'd pull the car and find a REAL trimmer

How do you really feel about it? Well, Dan came home from work and we have decided to drive the 75 miles each way right now to let him see it and give his opinion. We'll see what happens.

Don

Well, you asked for it, so here goes. I think traditional pleats are 2", if I remember correctly. Sooo to me 1 3/8" pleats won't look right.
The other thing that doesn't look right are the rear corners. Did you ask for that to be two pieces? I think it should wrap all around out of one piece and much smaller like you said. The pleat in the corners really look odd to me.
Sorry for all the negative but I wouldn't accept it, you are probably going to see this everyday for a long time, and it will eat at you.
Ken

Sorry Don,I'm with Ken on this one also. The rear corners screamed at me more-so then the wide pleats. It just doesn't look professional enough and I absolutely dislike the top side panels curving down to a point in the middle. If anything that should of followed the body line as he did across the rear.I wouldn't pull the plug on the guy yet but let him know that you aren't happy and want it sorted smartly at his cost and a much improved job done the second attempt otherwise you will be pulling the upholstery job of Dan's roadster and giving it to some one that can visualize and then create the trim job you are both after and prepared to pay for.

You asked, here goes....
I'll call the black part the bolster; the pleats wouldn't look quite as bad if the bolster were about half again wider(or even a tad more than that). It would visually reduce their impact in a small car like this. You understand proportion, the proportions are all wrong here. And if it goes to the wider profile it will need a bit more crown to look right (flat looks double ugly). As a general commentary, when dealing with a new trimmer that may not be as well known to anyone, drawings and/or pictures go a long way toward making the point of what the expectations are. It's a communication thing. He's wrong in free lancing styling without knowing you better, and at the least should have bounced the idea off of you before committing to cut and stitch. If cutting the pleat dimension in half is a compromise to save the labor/material already expended, don't do it. You had a picture in mind, you need to communicate that better, AND insist on it! What the rest of the guys have said will fit too............if it's consistent with your original intent.

As for Dan's deal, if you're going to give this guy the benefit of the doubt because of his workmanship, then make sure there's ABSOLUTELY no question in his mind what Dan's expectations are (pictures, sketches, beatings, whatever it takes). Especially when it comes to the top. Tops seem to be more difficult for many upholsterers to get. I don't know if it's because they often don't have to do a custom top, if it's the difficulty of the material compared to what they normally do, or if it's that many of them are just lazy. Whatever the reason, communicating top style, detail, finish, and fit seems to be more difficult.

Don,
You don't need any more advice here. Ken hit it on the pleats and wrap at the corners, and I agree with Bob on the bolster proportion. Hope you get it sorted out.