Thread: '38 Ford deck lid vs 37 Ford deck lid

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Sorry to see this Randy. Can you use part(s) of this one to patch in the old one? I've seen your talents, you can do this! I think your better at it than I am!

Originally Posted by 34_40

Sorry to see this Randy. Can you use part(s) of this one to patch in the old one? I've seen your talents, you can do this! I think your better at it than I am!

Thanks for the encouraging words, Mike! I'm sure I can figure it out. It's just that the main reason for buying another lid was to save some time, money & hassle over repairing the old one. Obviously, that's not going to happen. When selling something, I'm all for presenting the item in the most positive way but when that "positive presentation" parts company with the "truth", I have a problem with that!! That's one of the challenges of buying used parts on line from a picture. All my future online purchases will require many more pictures, more questions and more direct communication!

Seems these days that few are satisfied with giving the truth about the items they have for sale, they have to 'embellish' them way too much. So many rip offs operating on line these days it's just really taking a big chance to do business with anyone. Just a dang shame, I like to get rid of my extra's in hopes that they might help somebody with their project. Too many trying to sell junk at an inflated price just to make a buck. Lots of good, honest people in the Hot Roddin' world, too bad these scammers have to come along and screw things up!

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Seems these days that few are satisfied with giving the truth about the items they have for sale, they have to 'embellish' them way too much. So many rip offs operating on line these days it's just really taking a big chance to do business with anyone. Just a dang shame, I like to get rid of my extra's in hopes that they might help somebody with their project. Too many trying to sell junk at an inflated price just to make a buck. Lots of good, honest people in the Hot Roddin' world, too bad these scammers have to come along and screw things up!

I hear ya, Dave! Hey, I see you have a Carroll Shelby quote in your signature. I got to meet his wife today. A friend let me sneak into a car show event at the Belair Country Club which was being hosted by the Shelby's. Mrs Shelby arrived in her shiny new black Mustang Shelby GT 500 (the one with 1000hp!). Yes, she drives a stick!! Really nice lady. Carroll was going to be arriving at the event later but I wasn't able to stay that long. Would have been great to meet a living legend.

Originally Posted by randyr

I hear ya, Dave! Hey, I see you have a Carroll Shelby quote in your signature. I got to meet his wife today. A friend let me sneak into a car show event at the Belair Country Club which was being hosted by the Shelby's. Mrs Shelby arrived in her shiny new black Mustang Shelby GT 500 (the one with 1000hp!). Yes, she drives a stick!! Really nice lady. Carroll was going to be arriving at the event later but I wasn't able to stay that long. Would have been great to meet a living legend.

I've been fortunate enough to meet up with him a few times in the past, he's one heck of a guy to just sit an listen to! His background in road racing was a successful career in itself, but to then go on from there to build the Cobra and the GT40, and head up the racing effort with them both here and in Europe is truly phenomenal! One of his main reasons for getting into building the GT40's and take them to LeMans was to show Enzo Ferrari that a race car could be both fast and safe. In the 60's Ferrari was famous for having no regard for driver safety at all, kill one today, hire his replacement tomorrow. Shelby turned down offers to drive for Ferrari twice, then got hooked up with the boys at Ford and the rest, as they say, is history!!!!!

My first ever meeting with Mr. Shelby was in probably '73 at an SCCA event in College Station, Tx., he dropped in for a visit on Test and Tune day, Friday. My boss was campaigning one of the ex-Bolus and Snopes Shelby's. Carrol walked up and told us everything we had wrong and right on the car, then proceeded to give us a 15 minute history lesson on this car and a lot of the other big block Shelby's that were successful race cars. We set the car up per his "suggestions" then proceeded to set fast time, win class, and a 2nd overall on Saturday!!!!! He's probably forgotten more about chassis and suspension set-up then the rest of us will ever know!!!!!

He's quite a guy, doubt there will ever be another one like him!!!!!

Randy even the pics to me looked so good , the seller choked back what was really there . Ask for some back just to see what he will say .

But you have the skill and plenty of 37 material to build a fine lid the the hump .

We work hard to locate a nice usable piece and so many make it it out as being the Queens In Quality , you get it and its so much less like 70% less then was expected ,

Rhandy I feel bad the blur pic looked so much better , just not enough of them .

Originally Posted by bluestang67

Randy even the pics to me looked so good , the seller choked back what was really there . Ask for some back just to see what he will say .

But you have the skill and plenty of 37 material to build a fine lid the the hump .

We work hard to locate a nice usable piece and so many make it it out as being the Queens In Quality , you get it and its so much less like 70% less then was expected ,

Rhandy I feel bad the blur pic looked so much better , just not enough of them .

Hey Bobby, yeah, I sent the seller a couple of emails expressing my disappointment with what he said vs what I got. He gave a lame response the he really didn't look at it that close. What a bonehead! He couldn't help but see it unless he's blind!! Oh well, so much for my efforts to save some time & money repairing the old one. I guess I have to view this as an opportunity to practice some new metal-working skills!
Like I said earlier in the thread, all future online purchases will require many more pics and answers to many more questions! Please remind me of that if I start to get anxious to make a purchase....

I see it can be saved , but feel into how neatly arranged the picks where . Man I fell like strong guilt Now ..!

Did you pay the guy through Paypal? You should be able to file a claim on him for it. especially seeing how it's not near how he described it. Any way, can you use the inner structure from this rusty one, and the outer skin from yours and make one?

Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe

Did you pay the guy through Paypal? You should be able to file a claim on him for it. especially seeing how it's not near how he described it. Any way, can you use the inner structure from this rusty one, and the outer skin from yours and make one?

Hey Ryan, unfortunately, I didn't pay him with Paypal. I mailed him a check. He doesn't like Paypal. Now I think I know why!

As for using the inner structure on my old one, that won't really work. One of the reasons I decided to get another lid instead of fixing my old one is because of the way my lid was repaired many years ago. The inner structure was welded in with too much heat, etc and now it's very solid but also very wavy. My dad & I were learning back then. I'm still learning! Anyway, I had a fairly thick coat of bondo on the lower portion of the old lid, which smoothed it out ok but I was trying to avoid that this time.
I'll sand the "new" lid down to bare metal to see what I really have then make some decisions from there.

In the meantime, I think I'll send some of these pics to the seller and see if I can guilt him into refunding some of my money!

Thanks for your suggestions!

Check Ford Barn and see if they have a feedback Forum . Maybe at least spread his name out some .

Originally Posted by bluestang67

Check Ford Barn and see if they have a feedback Forum . Maybe at least spread his name out some .

I thought about that Bobby, but I hate to do that kinda stuff. On the other hand, if he's doing the same thing to others, he needs to be exposed. I'll check it out....

Randy he just totally misrepresented his add spread it like peanut butter . If not stab him in another add he puts up .


Randy I know this wasn't the intent but you could cut out a section that is the right radius and make a patch . A little work but replacing instead of saving metal .

Randy, when you say "drill them out" do you mean using a spot weld cutter? They have a drill bit, but also have a "stop" to limit the travel through 1 side. Here's Summit's offering Spot Weld Cutting Tools - Tools & Shop Equipment - SummitRacing.com

Randy, good to hear that you recieved some "refund"... and I'm the furthest thing from a body guy but, how about drilling right through the spot welds? it'll leave a hole to fill but it's gotta be easier than trying to pry and open the joint enough for a cutoff disc. Does the edge of the lid "skin" overlap and pinch onto the sub-frame?

Maybe do the lid repairs in quarters (or eigths) to help keep things straighter? Like I said, I'm no body man, just some thoughts is all..

(That's the same tool as I was thinking of! Thanks RSpears!)