1940 Ford Tudor Build Thread

[40FordDeluxe]

Thanks for the ideas and help guys. I like the Harley idea, but IMO it wouldn't be much different than what I have right now on the side of the fender. I have to dig out my parts list and go over it so I can get back on track. I want to add another bay to my shop before it snows so I can have a couple of projects torn down at one time without having to rearrange shop everytime something comes up. I best get crackin.

[Scooting]

Ryan, you mold in the pop up outside to the fender flush with the surface, the cap fits flush. If painted the same color as the fender all you see is a circle a bit larger than a 50 cent piece even with the fender. All is flush and body color. To open, you push the circle and the circular center pops up so you can unscrew the cap. Big difference than the stock setup.
Ray

[40FordDeluxe]

Ray, is that cap vented? The issue I have with the stock setup is that if the tank is full and the heat outside expands the gas in the tank, the cap vents gas on to the fender. If the fill tube is behind the fender the gas wouldn't make it on to the fender. I know that is kind of a moot point once the car is painted with quality paint, but it may be a while for that and I'd like to keep the gas off the fender if I can. The harley thing is still an option.

[cffisher]

[ I want to add another bay to my shop before it snows so I can have a couple of projects torn down at one time without having to rearrange shop everytime something comes up. I best get crackin. [/QUOTE]
I personally have done this 3 times one of which was a complete 26x30 building STILL not enough room. I hope this works for you. I am at present thinking about an addition on the 26x30 building.

[40FordDeluxe]

Charlie, thanks. I hope it works out too. I have two 20x30 bays but with the addition I will have a 20x60 area. I'll basically be adding another 20x30 on the back of my south bay. I'm sure it won't be enough, but it'll be more indoor room out of the cold and snow.

[40FordDeluxe]

Right now I'm having trouble deciding if I want to use the 871 or put 2 small turbos on the 354. Thoughts?

My biggest issue with the turbos is fitment. With the Hemi, I'll be cramped for room. The 871 will fit, I'm just wondering how bad mileage will suffer from 2 carbs on the 871.

[34_40]

To even consider fuel consumption while thinking of superchargers and dual turbos is a bit of a oxymoron isn't it? One just doesn't equate (well) with the other. I'm doing the install of the dual quad intake over this winter and I'm just resigning myself to the fact that fuel consumption won't be great. Heck, with the one 4 barrel on there now it isn't much! But it's more for the reason that the pedal that connects to the carb spends to much time on the floor...

WTH.. that is why I built it right?!?! LOL..

[rspears]

To even consider fuel consumption while thinking of superchargers and dual turbos is a bit of a oxymoron isn't it?.....

I had the same thought when I read it the post last night. Depending on how you set up the carb linkage your dual fours should run on two venturi's at idle and up to perhaps 25-30% throttle for cruise mode, so fuel consumption will be determined by skinny pedal position, right? And it'll spend more time greater than 50% than it does below 50%, right?
I'd say that when anyone looks at either setup the question, "What's your best overall mileage?" is not going to be in their top ten if they know anything about hot rods..... If someone does ask just smile and say, "Seriously??", and then laugh. If you're concerned with economy buy a Prius, or go with the twin turbo's with a fixed throttle stop at 40%. Your MPG will still suck, though...

[Scooting]

Big ole Hemi with a big old Blower in a big old 40 = Pure Class
Big ole Hemi with twin turbos in a big old 40 = interesting but not near as much class

Gas milage of 2 4bls depends on setup and how you drive it. It does not have to be bad. If you size the carbs right and get them spot on, it won't be that far off from normal driving with one carb. If there are plans for a set of rubber tracks coming out of your driveway that get thicker by the week, quit being prissy about the milage. Take the "Seriously" route.

[40FordDeluxe]

Ok I should be more clear, with the 2 turbos I'll only be using one 750 or one 650 double pumper carb. Not 2. On the blower I'd like to have 2 450's. I'm kind of leaning towards turbos just because everyone expects a blower to be on top of a Hemi. I'm going to strive for some performance and mileage because I want to drive it daily and it has to do decent or I can't. I'm a poor boy. If I can't have some power and mileage then why mess with the gas crap. I've got other fuel alternative power sources I could go to. Haha (Cummins or a 7.3 Powerstroke)

In more thought here...... The turbos I have I'd use if I go turbo route will be 2 HX35W's. They are only 57mm compressors, so they aren't huge. My biggest issue with turbos is going to be packaging. There isn't much room in the engine bay with the Hemi there. I may not make up my mind until I actually get the car back in the shop and try fitting things on it. Too many choices.

[Scooting]

Your car not mine, build to please yourself.
And if that Hemi was in my 40, it would have a blower peeking through the hood.
Check the 37 from head on.

[40FordDeluxe]

That is one nice car!!!!

One of my older friends is telling me that I should be able to achieve 15+ mpg's with a blower set up right since I have a lock up overdrive trans. He is ready to smack me for not putting a blower on it.

[rspears]

That is one nice car!!!!

One of my older friends is telling me that I should be able to achieve 15+ mpg's with a blower set up right since I have a lock up overdrive trans. He is ready to smack me for not putting a blower on it.

Sounds like a smart guy! With age comes wisdom, sometimes..... Ask him if he needs any help with the smacking. Scooting will pick me up on the way to Iowa....

[40FordDeluxe]

Sounds like a smart guy! With age comes wisdom, sometimes..... Ask him if he needs any help with the smacking. Scooting will pick me up on the way to Iowa....

Come on up, becareful though, I might have to put you guys to work afterwards.

[40FordDeluxe]

I was checking out pics of 40 Fords and ran across this. It isn't exactly how I'd build one, but it is pretty cool. I dig the stance, but I'm not sold on the big wheel no tire situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl_NZ1Dtitg