1940 Ford Tudor Build Thread

[40FordDeluxe]

Mike, how do those ebay ss headers fit? These are pretty much use less. Can't get a collector on them. The header almost touches the oil pan. These must be for a wedge engine?

[Mike P]

You should have gotten a pair of angled collectors with the headers.




If you didn’t let me know tonight and I’ll try to get this pair out to you in tomorrow’s mail if the post office lobby is open.

Even with these flanges it is still tight and close to the oil pan. I haven’t put my temperature gun on the pan with it running, but it doesn’t appear to have gotten hot enough to have bothered the paint. Please overlook the ugly welds.











This one of those places you want to go with the copper flange gaskets too. I’d really hate to have to replace those gaskets if they blow out. I just bought a set off E Bay for the cut outs….they were less than $10.

I wish I’d seen your post earlier. I just let the jack down from getting the new tires on the front……..jup it’s low enough to the ground I had to jack it back up to get the pictures……I suppose it’s a good thing though, looks Like I didn’t get lock nut on one of the bolts.



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[40FordDeluxe]

Thanks for that Mike. Which ones are those? I do have the angled collector pieces, but I can't get them in there because they hit the oil pan. It looks like yours are about a half inch farther than the block than mine. Are they just the ebay $115 ones, or are they the flow tech ones? Thanks for the help, Ryan.

[40FordDeluxe]

I guess I could just cut these and re angle them. I'm not going to hurt them I guess. Haha

[Mike P]

Mine are the just the cheapy E bay ones.

I wonder if it would be possible to do away with the collector flange on the header altogether and just weld a 90 degree pipe to the collector (then move the flange down stream to make it possible to remove the header if necessary.



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[34_40]

It's funny you say that...... Mine will do the same thing. My glow plugs don't work, and that is part of the ignition switch. When it died a couple weeks ago, the lift pump wasn't getting power. So I added a toggle switch with a fuse straight off the battery. Then the ignition did the same thing you said. I am probably going to put a napa ignition switch on it and wire up the glow plugs on a push button with a relay and be done with it. The weird thing is the dang alternator still charges. Haha

Tried it ( new switch) with little result. Most of the guys I know with'em, replace the wires / connectors and the switch. And put the glow plugs onto a separate circuit.

[53 Chevy5]

Good grief, I'm mad for you. Like you said, It's always somthing.

[40FordDeluxe]

Yesterday I bit the bullet and ordered some Hot heads block huggers. I was going to get the ebay ones but I got a refund from over paying on my escrow so better headers it was. I have been messing with getting the engine positioned farther back too. It was eating at me that I spent the time and money to have a recessed fire wall, but wasn't really utilizing it. So I removed the steering column and shaft, and moved the engine and trans back. Once the headers get here, I'll get it finalized.

Yesterday I finally took the time to replace the bad brake line on the 95 F350 I bought late last fall. I have to get it ready to go on vacation in June and July. I had better drive it some before we just bonzi in it to KC for the first part of the Power Tour. I have to replace the head lights and turn signals up front, and get rid of the air brushing on the side of it. Do any of you have any idea what the eagle clenching a diamond might mean? I might leave it, but I doubt it. I don't like having some one else's ride if you know what I mean. I'm going to repaint the entire truck back green some day. (Maybe)

[Mike P]

Sorry to hear about the headers Ryan. What headers do you currently have, the Flow Tech or E Bay? Looking at your pictures It does look like I have 1/2-3/4" more clearance.

"...... I don't like having some one else's ride if you know what I mean......"

I bought an old Harley once with a very distinctive (Ugly) paint job and rode it a bit like it was.....clear up until the night a couple of big old bikers came into the bar looking to kick the previous owns butt. Yeah it got a quick paint change.



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[40FordDeluxe]

Mike, I'm guessing I have some variation of the el cheapo china headers. I had to oblong some holes to get them to fit and the flanges probably aren't square any way. They look machined but not very nice. They aren't the flow techs. But, the flow techs are really similar from the pics and specs I found. I called Hot heads and they checked clearance while I was on the phone. I really wanted fender well headers but I knew my shock location would kill that. I decided it wasn't worth trying to find a new place for shocks when you won't even see the headers any how.

[Hotrod46]

You might want to look into welding the collector to the header and adding a v-band type flange on the collector for the pipe if you have the room. You eliminate the possibility of leaks at the collector gasket that way and make removal and replacement a lot easier. Just a suggestion.

[40FordDeluxe]

Hotrod46, yes sir. I've ordered some. Hopefully I got enough. I got the plain headers so I can do this and hopefully a friend of mine can ceramic coat them after words for me.

[stovens]

Ryan until you get the dually painted hear is an interesting story that you could use for the eagle diamond graphic!From Wikipedia

"The Eagle Diamond was discovered in Eagle, Wisconsin, USA in 1876 by a man named Charles Wood while he was digging a well. The land in which he was digging was not his own; it belonged, rather, to Thomas Deveraux, and Charles and his wife Clarissa were merely renters. Wood did not think the stone was very valuable, and believed it to be a topaz, because the color of the 16.25 carat (3.25 g) crystal was a "warm sunny color". Some years later, when the Wood family fell on hard times, Clarissa sold the stone for $1.00 to a Samuel B. Boynton of Milwaukee. Sometime after the sale, Boynton took the stone to Chicago for appraisal where it was revealed to be a diamond, and worth at least $US 700.


Five views of the Eagle Diamond
Boynton sold the diamond to Tiffany’s in New York City for US$ 850. It remained at Tiffany’s until World War I. J.P. Morgan bought the diamond, and presented it as a gift to the American Museum of Natural History, in New York City. It was placed in the J.P. Morgan exhibit along with the Star of India and the DeLong Star Ruby until it was stolen on October 29, 1964 by Jack "Murph the Surf" Murphy and his two accomplices, Allen Kuhn and Roger Clark. Even though Murphy, Kuhn, and Clark have been all caught, it has been hypothesized that the Eagle Diamond was probably cut into smaller stone(s) and no longer exists.

At that time of the stone’s discovery, it was one of the largest ever recovered in the continental United States. The stone's discovery location, however, is not adjacent to a natural diamond source. The Eagle Diamond may have been transported to its discovery site in southeastern Wisconsin by glaciers during one of the Ice Ages. The disappearance of the original diamond makes it impossible to determine its actual point of origin, but several kimberlite pipes have been discovered in the Northwest Territories, Canada."

[40FordDeluxe]

That is very interesting. I've tried getting in touch with the owner before the guy I purchased the truck from, but no luck yet. This morning I got the head lights and turn lamp housings all replaced on it. Someone hit something with the RH front fender and broke all the plastic stuff. I have big plans to convert this truck to 4x4 and put a 6 cylinder in it later on. For now, I'll drive it until the 7.3 needs some big money part. I also installed some LED head lights and had to replace the clearance lamps because they were cracked and had water in them. I drove it to work today. Hey, I have a truck with AC now! This one might be a keeper. Haha

[40FordDeluxe]

Yesterday during the torrential down pours more parts from Hot Heads arrived! Luckily the box didn't get very wet with the direction of the winds. I know I was a little skeptical about buying the headers, but they are so much nicer than the garbage ones I had first.

I went ahead and lowered the steering column down and left the engine where I placed it the other day. I will have to lower my steering shaft idler mount, and get a longer piece of the double D shaft, but it is all going to work and have enough clearance to fit nicely.

I will cut off the flange on the headers and weld on a v band. The biggest reason I have to do that is because these headers hang so far down. I won't be able to put a 90* on there right now without being below the front cross member. Right now I'm searching for some super tight radius 90s, and then we'll be good to go!