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    Looks good Ryan. I think the originals were a bit narrower but the shape is right on.


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    I've NEVER seen a car come from the factory that couldn't be improved.....

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    sorry double post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike P View Post
    Looks good Ryan. I think the originals were a bit narrower but the shape is right on.


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    I think you're right Mike. I have thought about narrowing it up but the whole air cleaner debacle is holding that up. I need to find/build an upper shroud for them. Were the flat head fords the only ones that had a louvered upper oil bath/air cleaner top?

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    Looking good, you sure do have a variety of stuff in the garage, don't you love remodel jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by 53 Chevy5 View Post
    Looking good, you sure do have a variety of stuff in the garage, don't you love remodel jobs
    Yeah, everything is in the garage that shouldn't be in there. I shouldn't cry though. I was lucky to get a place with a garage in our price range. I didn't think that was even an issue until we started looking. I have started cleaning my shop and storage unit at my parent's so I can organize parts better. I'm trying to get ready for when the Buick gets torn down.

    My brother just moved into a new to him house and he's had an extra washer and dryer for a while. He was going to bring them for a while. Well, he brought them so in the garage they went. Wouldn't you know it but 2 days later our washer crapped out. So now I need to get the dryer switched out, in my spare time. Then I can take the old ones to the mission and they will repair them if needed and resell them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike P View Post
    Looks good Ryan. I think the originals were a bit narrower but the shape is right on. .
    Times 2, it will look amazing once you finish.
    What are you going to use for a filter? Do you want to mimic an original or are you going to leave the media exposed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 34_40 View Post
    Times 2, it will look amazing once you finish.
    What are you going to use for a filter? Do you want to mimic an original or are you going to leave the media exposed?
    I'm on the fence. First I thought that having it in an enclosure would hurt power. But then I got real and realized that the big HP 392's in the Chrysler 300s had these so I doubt they would rob horsepower. So, I wouldn't mind trying to mimic an original and have the media covered. Also, I think it might actually be a good idea to have the filters draw the air from the top of the lid instead of the bottom so the engine isn't pulling hot air in right off the heads. i'm not sure it will matter with a hood on and setting in traffic though?

    I also thought about just having a 7"x3" or so filter under each wing and call it good. The original style with enclosed elements might look better or more nostalgic though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    I'm on the fence. I also thought about just having a 7"x3" or so filter under each wing and call it good. The original style with enclosed elements might look better or more nostalgic though?
    I'm "intrigued" with the 7x3 (or 4) concept.. many possibilities there I think.

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    I agree about not pulling air off the bottom near the heads. If you made a metal cylinder hanging down for looks, you could slot or lover the top part of it for air access and that should work ok. Just a suggestion, you have so many ways to go now. Look at some old pickup oil bath ones for inspiration perhaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooting View Post
    I agree about not pulling air off the bottom near the heads. If you made a metal cylinder hanging down for looks, you could slot or lover the top part of it for air access and that should work ok. Just a suggestion, you have so many ways to go now. Look at some old pickup oil bath ones for inspiration perhaps.
    I went to the local pick and pull thinking I could find some air cleaner lids. Yeah right. Nothing old there. Usually they have some old stuff but not right now. I'll have to go to a few of the farther away yards and see what I can scrounge up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 40FordDeluxe View Post
    I went to the local pick and pull thinking I could find some air cleaner lids. Yeah right. Nothing old there. Usually they have some old stuff but not right now. I'll have to go to a few of the farther away yards and see what I can scrounge up.
    I can get you some more of these air filters if your interested, I'll be in your area in about a month if your interested
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    Ok, time to think out of the box.
    How about using 57 Chevrolet heater boxes hanging down with the scoops facing forward?
    There is one on my Craigslist for $30. You might dig around and see what you come up with.
    Place a cylinder filter inside.
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    I think that idea could be a winner!
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    Thanks Scooting! I think that could work out pretty sweet! I'm going to have to dig up 2 of those. That's better than the vent cap I picked up this weekend to see if I liked it.....


    Since we're on the subject of the 40, I think I might pull the trigger and get FItech for it now instead of later. When I was building the air cleaner I couldn't get over how close the 2 carbs are together, and how much fun it will be to change a float or change jets when it's all together. I don't mind working on it, but this sure brings back memories of the 2 carbs I had on my tunnel ram. I sure want to drive this with less hassles.

    I'm also thinking about trying to get the vintage air compact instead of the mini. I've heard the mini's don't cool well in a sedan. Anyone have any thoughts or experience on that?
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    1972 Chevy K30 Longhorn P-pumped 24v Compound Turbos 47RH Just another money pit
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    Hi Ryan,

    I don't know the physical size of the heater fan boxes but hope they would be close to what you need.
    Just trying to stretch the mind to different possibilities.

    The injections that look like carbs are becoming better priced and make them tempting, huh?

    On the air, When I did mine I did not have much spare change and was feeling frugal. The kits were priced above what I wanted. One good thing if you go to a local dealer, they will have fiberglass reproductions of the under dash units which they will let you borrow for a test fit. Easy to grab a couple versions and see for yourself how they will fit.

    My unit, i purchased the out front radiator heat exchanger made by Be Cool off ebay. The same size fits a 55 Chevrolet in the books if I remember right. (Worth knowing at swap meets or closeouts.) I am happy with it. The sanyo compressor, again from ebay but new - saved some real money on that. Now inside the passenger compartment, I looked at all the manufacturers and elected to go with an underdash unit. I did not want the chrome 50's replacement look but wanted it to blend in. I elected to buy an underdash evaporator that showed nothing but black vents for about $75. Had to find some bits and pieces (spal switches, make my own coolant lines) but overall am very happy with the performance. Running at 120 outside temps in Palm Springs or 122 in Sedona AZ we never have moved the control from it's lowest position. At that point the car is comfortable overall. Speed two will blow up the skirts and freeze things. Speed three, you will want to roll the windows down for heat. My setup is not as pretty as some but it sure will outperform any of them. (Happy wife, good trip.) Don't be afraid to try your own ideas but then you are good at that.
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