Yes Bob I have heard of all all those names at the age of 12 I started to collect all the rod mags I could and have all of hot rod from 1949 up tough to get early stuff in CANADA. Also all of honk hop up car craft and 700 other little pages and my choise is to build like the guy in the readers rides because I think we are the back bone of the hobbie and to get put down by some as non deserving dose take a toll . If you ever get a chance to go through some old mags in the 50s you will find some primer cars as features but as time moved on thay had to fit other catigories and by the 60s you did not see the average cars but in the rides section.