Thread: 39 ford p.u. 302 engine
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08-28-2004 11:09 AM #1
39 ford p.u. 302 engine
I'm installing a 1991 Lincoln 302 w/overdrive trans. in a 1939 Ford p.u. I've installed a Mustang II suspension in the original frame and am now trying to figure out how to lower the engine about 2 to 3 inches, which is being prevented by the stock oil pan that sits at the front, right on top of the suspension crossmember. I pondered a different oil pan but after doing a little research maybe this is not the best solution. The only other idea I can come up with that might make some sense is using a dry sump system. I need to keep the engine in the location that it's in, front to rear, because of leg room in the rear and radiator clearance it the front. Any ideas or suggestions would be welcome. This is my first Ford to Ford conversion and now I'm learning why people use Chevys but I've gone too far at this point to revert to Chevy.
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08-28-2004 11:23 AM #2
Not exactly sure what your setup looks like, but I think I might continue to explore a different oil pan. If your suspension is set up like the 37 Dodge PU I had there should be room for a rear sump pan and pickup like used on some of the late 60's thru 70's Ford trucks and vans.
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08-28-2004 11:43 AM #3
There are several ways you can go on this. Check out the oil pan from a V-8 Explorer/Mountaineer, I believe it's a rear sump design. Another choice is Canton, I think they makes a shallow twin sump area pan for the 302. Since Mustang II's had a 302 from the factory you may be able to use an OE design pan also.
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08-28-2004 03:06 PM #4
Unfortunatly (for this application) the Mustang II pans are front sump and the 302 Fox body cars use a dual sump pan.I've NEVER seen a car come from the factory that couldn't be improved.....
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08-28-2004 03:48 PM #5
Try these guy's they might have an Idea or two.
http://www.curtsrodandcustom.com/deucefactory.html
Hope they can help !
~ Vegas ~
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08-28-2004 06:41 PM #6
I think the pan from a 91 lincoln has the double sump with the dual drain plugs and if you can find a pan fron a van or truck,it will have a more like a rear sump pan and should give you a little more room to drop the motor.
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08-28-2004 09:19 PM #7
If you can't find the Explorer to canibalize, Ford Racing makes a complete kit with pan, and pickup to convert to rear sump. Since you didn't say why you think it's a bad idea we're left to guess, but nearly everyone who does a SBF in these Ford chassis uses the rear sump rather than the more complex, and expensive, dry sump.Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
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09-04-2004 11:26 PM #8
....call this Guy....first name is "Beryl"....
....760-243-2959. He has the off road 4X4 pan you need,
the reverse sump pan....with the oil feed tube, and the
special bolt you need.
Daver.Model "A"....all the way !
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