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    We have already started the day here and it is overcast,grey day but dry so far. I am still full of a head cold so glad it is only Mum and I to worry about today.
    I hope all my friends and family here on Club Hot Rod have an enjoyable Christmas day.
    I maybe a little crazy but it stops me going insane.

    Isaiah 48: 17,18.

    Mark.

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    God Bless Mark.
    Have a great day mate.

    Pel
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    Sounds like fun! Happy Holidays Pel
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    Well I've just made time to read this and while a bit late.. I still would like to wish everyone a happy holiday season.

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    Pel, I hope you and your family had a very Merry Christmas! I'm sure the plane was a hit!
    Ryan
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    Guys!!
    Christmas Day and Boxing day were great
    I was happy to have a lot of the family in our house over these two days !!

    Faith has been sat in her plane many times. She cant reach the pedals but she likes it just the same.

    Gill and I did a lot of entertaining this holiday which we really enjoyed.

    We closed the holiday from work with me selling my Rover V8 engine, which was collected on Saturday 2nd December and then finishing off the holiday on the Sunday by going for a roast dinner at a friends farmhouse with 10 of my race buddies + their wives and girlfriends. It was great end to the holidays for me and Gill. Plus i now have the money from the sale of the Rover to buy my new SBC parts

    Happy New Year folks !!

    Pel
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    And a glorious New Year to you and yours too, Pel. Your statement that "Faith has been sat in her plane many times ...." sounds fantastic, but without a picture? C'mon Grandpa, we need to see the SMILE!!

    Glad that your holiday was a success, even with you were pushed out of the kitchen this year, but you gained points in the big scheme. Looking forward to hearing more from you in coming months.
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    Yeah Pops, where is the photos of Faith flying high...
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    I maybe a little crazy but it stops me going insane.

    Isaiah 48: 17,18.

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    Happy new year to you and congrats on the sale of the Rover engine! X2 on the Faith new plane pics.
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    OH My!!
    I've had so much Fun watching Faith in her new plane I forgot to take any pictures ??
    I'll get some after work this weekend
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    OOPS!! I FORGOT TO UPDATE YOU GUYS ON THE NEW SBC ENGINE BUILD FOR THE MGB ?

    Its all changed now I'm afraid

    I almost made a huge BooBoo on the new parts as well !!

    I ordered an Eagle forged crank + Forged H beam rods and a set of Mahle Forged pistons at +40 bore size on Friday 15th Jan. On Saturday 16th Jan I popped over to the workshop after work to check out my parts list. It was lucky I did to be honest. I was sure my 4 bolt block was bored +40. But after checking my old pistons I saw they were marked +60 ? Then I remembered that the +40 pistons were in my spare block that I gave to a friend.. Yikes!
    So I sent a quick mail to cancel the pistons order. Luckily my UK supplier stopped his order on the Monday.

    Then I spoke to my suppliers engine builder and a few Chevy mates. They all agreed that running an old SBC block like mine at +60 overbore for drag racing may not be good for me?
    My supplier knows that I have a spare 2 bolt main SBC at stock bore size so he advised me to NOT build the +60 4 bolt engine, and to modify the stock bore 2 bolt engine to 4 bolt mains and work it up from there?

    I did some sums and realised that if I buy a splayed 4 bolt kit in the UK and then pay a machine shop to drill and rework the block to make these fit and then have the new caps line bored, and then have the block cleaned, and then have new cam bearings fitted, and the have the bores re honed and the decks skimmed flat it will cost me £800-900 + the time involved for me to remove the freeze plugs and clean the waterways + chase all the threads in the block + put threads in the oil gallery holes to fit plugs and then do all the other little mods to the block that I want.... I then looked at the problem I may have with the condition of the outer bore walls as the engine has been run in a sea going boat so corrosion and pitting under corrosion nodules on these surfaces could be a worry? Then I thought about the cost involved in having the bore walls properly ultrasonically checked for thickness to produce a report that I got cold feet on the build as a whole?? I took some tiime to think about the parts i have been collecting for the SBC build since Sept 2014 and I realised that apart from two used Holley 600Dp carbs that everything was brand new. Apart from the very old SBC block which is bored out to the max and very very old.

    So!! I made a decision and ordered a brand new Dart SHP engine block. After reading about this block I am convinced that it is the best choice for my SBC build now. It has a priority oiling system which see's the oil flow to the crank first, and then the cam and then the rocker / valve gear. The bore walls are very thick at 4" bore size and it can be bored to 165 over and still have bore walls about a 1/4" thick ?
    So my initial 383 stroker kit for the old block could now stretch out to 433 cubes if I want it to??

    I will not make a decision on the final build spec until the new block is here in 2 weeks time. I need to see it and decide on final bore size as well as crank stroke and rod length. The price for this block delivered to me in the UK is £1,515.00 all in. On top of this I will nee to buy oversized cam bearings and have the block decked to my desired height and also have it bored to my desired size? So I guess I'm looking at close to £2000 to get it finished as I want it?

    Its not cheap but I think that spending money now in the early stages will pay off in the long run for me.

    I have made the choice to put the engine build back by 8 weeks so I can get the new block finished as I want it done this year ?

    I was hoping to be out and racing by June this year. I have pushed this back to late August or early Sept to be on track and doing the initial fire up in the pits to bed the engine in now.

    If I miss my chance to get racing this year then so be it... I will be happy to wait for 2017 to see the engine build and all of the other mods I want to do finished and ready for testing in January 2017 when the MGB should be capable of running a low 9 or a high 8 second pass ??

    Regards to all
    Pel
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    It wasn't bad advice to avoid the sixty-over block.

    I've run them plenty, but not on the strip, just street.
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    Sounds like sound Thinking to me. Start fresh and new, eliminates the second guess work!
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    I had a .060 over 350 4 bolt block in a 388 config. I raced it quite a bit. Street and strip. It was in a 72 Camaro RS and it ran 6.90s in the 1/8th. Man, I miss that car. It did get hot easily and was hard to cool down between hot laps. I had an aluminum radiator, high flow water pump, bla bla. So I'm sure you made the better decision as you will be pushing it all the time.
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    Thanks for the feedback guys!!
    I have now decided that my first ever SBC build will be:
    The Dart SHP Block with the 383 stroker kit at a +30 bore size. CR will be 11:1 for heavy nitrous use to start with.
    With the +30 rebore the bore walls will be around 8.5mm thick.
    I have spoken to the block suppliers in the uk and they have advised me to have the block decked when it arrives. They have said that a good number of these blocks are not straight on the decks when they check them, hence the extra metal on the decks from factory? They will deck the block for free so I cant complain eh? They just want to be sure that the block is ok when I fit the heads.
    These blocks also need oversized cam bearings fitted and my guy will supply and fit these for about $110 all in.
    My old Rover engine pushed my 1/8th mile times to around 5.7 seconds @ 114mph. I'm hoping that this new engine will take nearly a second off my 1/8th mile time ??
    With regard to engine cooling I will have to wait until the engine is fitted. Without the need at this time for a blower pulley I should have an extra 3" clearance at the front. So I am considering dropping my MGB V8 radiator into may mate Graham who runs Serck Motorsport UK and asing him for a price to replicate my radiator in aluminium, but at twice the thickness My old stock rad has been ok so far for the old 298ci rover but I think it may be time to upgrade from my existing 40 year old radiator for the new 383 SBC.
    Things are slowly coming together now guys. And i'm also considering a slight step back now. After reading Vizards books I'm considering ditching the dual quad tunnel ram manifold and the twin 6700dp carbs and fittng a Victor manifold with a single 750 carb for ease of tuning and also some savings on the nitrous system I want to build. I'm liking the look of the Wilson Cross Bar plate system?

    More info to follow as soon as I have sold a kidney to pay for more V8 suff

    Pel
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