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03-21-2005 04:13 PM #1
Paint estimate for roadster pickup.
Today I went to the local PPG dealer, to try and work up some kind of comprehensive quote for paint for the roadster pickup. I will be painting it myself, so needed to price out material. Normally, to paint a full size sedan with acrilic enamel, I always used to buy 3 quarts of paint, a gallon of reducer, and a pint of activator. This was enough to give 3 full coats on a full size sedan. If I had to do inside the door jambs as well as the exterior, I would buy a full gallon of paint. This is using conventional paint equipment, not HVLP. Paint technologies have changed a lot, and this time I am going to use Omni basecoat/clearcoat for the job. I will be painting it "2004 Chev SSR Slingshot Yellow"-----I know from experience that this paint doesn't cover worth a damn, (it took an entire quart to do the engine and transmission). When I went in and asked to price out 6 quarts, the salesman asked if I was painting a motor home---he said that at a 1:1 mix ratio, that would give 12 quarts of sprayable paint.. I explained that no, only a small pick-up truck with no roof. But--------I am going to have it apart to spray it in 3 batches. One batch of parts will be the grill shell, hood, tailgate, steering column, front splash apron, and 4 wheels. The second batch will be the bed, the bed valances, and the body shell. The third batch will be all the fenders, splash aprons, and running boards (Iwill spray them in place on the chassis). Then, assuming I have enough paint to cover all this adequately, I will probably need at the very least a gallon of clear, along with the appropriate reducer to give everything 2 coats of clear.---I intend to clear the 3 batches about 1/2 an hour after the last color coat on each batch flashes (or whatever time interval the instructions call for), without any additional sanding in between. The number of peices in each batch is dictated by the size of spray booth I have to work with.---All told, for 6 quarts of color along with the equal ammount of reducer, 1-gallon of clear, and the appropriate reducers for it, I am looking at about $500 including taxes. I don't think thats a bad deal. There is a more expensive line than the Omni, but it costs over twice as much.Old guy hot rodder
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03-21-2005 07:58 PM #2
Brian,
The only reason the OMNI line is cheaper is there is no warrenty on the product, but is still a excellent paint line, its why its cheaper then the DBU/DBC BC/CC line . I recomend using PPG's NCS 2003 white sealer , as this will help with coverage of the base. Plus the white will make the yellow POP instead of using a grey sealer.
500 bucks isnt bad at all , as the tu-tone I was going to paint my 37 was HOK kandys with my special mix purple was going to run me 2500 +
Sounds like your getting close to having a finished rod. Good luck
SprayTech
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03-21-2005 08:10 PM #3
i've painted 4 vehicles with omni so far with no regrets. with the others brands with warranty, if the paint did screw up, first you would have to proove it was the paints fault and not yours . with omni, if it does screw up you can still buy a second batch of paint cheaper that one batch of most of the others. BTW i am looking forward to seeing you little avatar in the corner yellow instead of greySeth
God cannot give us a happiness and peace apart from Himself, because it is not there. There is no such thing. C.S.Lewis
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03-21-2005 10:47 PM #4
Hey Brian- the paint nowdays are a lot different than the paint of old, they are more like film than paint. Follow the tech sheet to the letter and you will be ok, I like the PPG better because I get better coverage, as well as atomization. Omni is so thin you have to watch out for running, and sags. You should be able to cover your roadster with about two quarts of PPG's DBU/or DBC, and a quart of their clear, so your not talking about a lot of money difference.
If it were me I would go with the DBC BC/CC.......I wouldn't be happy with the finished Omni product quality just because it doesn't have any depth to it.
I've shot a LOT of both & I don't care for Omni- it's industrial grade- for industrial equipment. But -Good Luck, and I hope to see your hard work as it nears the end.........Jim
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03-22-2005 03:07 AM #5
I just finished a car for my wife. Like you I have normally used acrylic enamel and conventional paint equipment, not HVLP. Here in AZ base/clear does not hold up as well as it would in other places especially on cars that live outside. I really wasn't happy with the last couple of cars I had done in Dupont Centari so I talked to the guys at the paint store for suggestions. I ended up going with Nason Ful-Thane urethane.
Using conventional equipment it really went on well and I was very happy with the results. I suspect a clear over it would set it off, and I might have done it if it weren't a daily driver. The cost wasn't that bad, about $350 for 5 quarts of color; 4 Black (I had to do jams inside of the trunk, hood etc and wanted a little left over in case I had to redo something) and 1 qt of silver, the reducer and hardner.
Good luck on yours I'm really looking foward to seeing it done.Last edited by Mike P; 03-22-2005 at 03:10 AM.
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03-22-2005 05:08 AM #6
Great looking Horse, Mike!!! Brian, I think you are on target with your paint plans. It would be nice to spray everything at once, but with space limitations, you gotta do what you gotta do. If you give the paint the same attention you have given the rest of the truck, it will come out great !!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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