Thread: Paint Job Question

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Hello all,
please have a look to the picture below. Has somebody an idea how this paint job has to be done?
Thanks for reply.
http://www.imageark.net/image.php?id=112835

well it is hard to tell What kind of finish it has! If it shiny or it has a flat finish to it! The base color is obviously it has green color with what looks like a lot of white pearl over the green base It looks to be a pretty heavy pearl!

I'm sure someone else will chime in and give some more detail!

The easiest way to do these suede jobs is to paint the car the same way you normally would, then topcoat with a "flat" clear. I think PPG makes one, or you can buy the flattening agent they have that is okay for use in clears. Not all flatteners will work. Some are transparent, but many of them will leave white specks in the clear.

I would not bet on that being pearl without seeing the car. The white areas could be caused by the way the flat finish reflects light. BTW, If you've ever sanded the clear on top of a pearl finish, you would know that it does produce an unusual "look". That could be a cool to use pearl under the flat clear.

The light was reflecting on the tops of everything is what is throwing me off! I though that was flat finish clear! The only thing bad about that is when you spray it: what you spray is what you get, no cutting, no buffing!

TravisB, That's a fact. I don't have a great booth, which isn't much of a problem, since I cut and buff everything I do. However, a piece of dust is permanent on a flat finish. Also, I doubt you could spot repair it without reclearing the whole panel. Jay

That job was most likely a Major brand paint that has tintable Primer/Sealer , the reason for tintable Primers and sealers are for faster coverage of the top coat.
Plus , when top coat gets rock chipped or nicked , its not so noticable if there was grey or Red oxide Primer under it .

SprayTech,

If it was a tintable primer/sealer, you should know that these are not designed to stand up to the sun. I repainted two 32 Fords that were shot with black epoxy primer. They both chalked out, and turned gray in under 5 years.

If you were refering to me , I know that......Been a PPG all levels painter now for 30 years.

Frank was wanting to know it was done , I told him the most likely way it was done.
Not whether it was weather proof or not .
Thats a whole nother issue.

SprayTech

SprayTech, I wasn't directing the response at anyone. Just a "heads up" so people will know what kind of performance they'll get from a primer.

The popularity of flat finishes on bikes and rods today has created a lot of questions for builders. It has been my experience, that those who have used primers for a finish coat seem very suprised, when the paint job rapidly dies!

No problems HRP......I know alot of guys/gals like the hot rod flat look, its hard to explain and get it through their heads that it isnt a cheap finish.
That is if they dont want moisture to penetrate the primer substrait.
and if they may later want to spray color later on , as to why it blisters and goes to crap in a hand basket
The more help with explaining the evils of not doing it correctly is a good thing .

SprayTech

Personally, even though I haven't use this approach yet, I think the best solution is a catalyzed flat clear. That way there are no limits on what is possible, and the life of the job is maximized.

Of course that doesn't mean anything if the guy is planning on a couple hundred bucks to paint the car!

My thoughts on this flat look has been prime the car and block till straight , then put 2 coats of cheap ass catylized clear over it , then let gass off for a week or 2 , scuff, then spray your HOT ROD Flat look over it. At least you have some protection.
Like I mentioned its not a cheap look , IF you want protection from the elements .

PPG makes a catylized flattend clear , but its not cheap by any means , its made for the GM body cladding that they use.

SprayTech

Heres an idea for flat finish.

This may show how bad a painter I am but my "off the gun finish" with acrylic looks really flat, so all I did was put some turtle wax over it and it gave a me the flat look I was after. of course it was not a chalk board finish like some of the suedes getting around but as far as I can tell its flat and its water resistant.

andy.

That is a sweet color. I wish sometimes that I can find the owner of a car like that and ask them what and how they made it look like that. It's something different. A lot of people on this site dont like the flat look but I think a flat green like that is cool. Flat black is getting a little over done and boring now too I think.... Only reason I think I might be going with the flat black is because it's cheap and I can't afford anything else.

FMX, I agree about the flat black getting a little "old" already, but on a local basis you won't see that many jobs, so you will still be kind of unique.

I think the future will be in bright colored flat finishes. I used the shiny flame/ flat black combo on the two rods I did, and they got good reviews, so I think that may become more popular too.