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I know this is going to be a question with a ton of variables but i have a nova that needs paint. It needs minor body work too - there are two spots in the door jam that has bubbled and it has a stone chip on the fender. So nothing too bad. What i want to know is what it would cost to paint that car (roughly) just one color nothing crazy either like a red or black... something stock or close to it.

Also does anybody knows any good painters in the detroit area?

From my experience:

Black will be most expensive, if you want it to look really good.

On the red choice, use good quality paint, even though it will be substantially more. Cheap reds will fade badly.

The prices will run between $500, and $10,000 depending on who does it, whether they use quality paint, and how well they do the job. If you spend less than a couple thousand, don't expect much. If you find the right guy, $5,000 should buy a very good job.

I just did a repaint on my 67 Nova and I've got a grand just in supplies and I wouldnt even think about how much time I have in it.

One case of Krylon primer= $33.48
One case of Krylon = $35.76

One divorce when wife finds out what you are doing in the garage = $10,000+

or
go to local paint shops and get estimates. Usually a lot cheaper than the divorce.

Would ppg's omni fall into the cheap paint catagory. I plan on using ragoon red. B/C
Can't quite swing to great stuff right now.

Thanks Dave

I dont like omni myself. I wouldnt paint it until I could afford good paint either.

Originally Posted by DaveMax

Would ppg's omni fall into the cheap paint catagory. I plan on using ragoon red. B/C
Can't quite swing to great stuff right now.

Thanks Dave

I would wait until you can do it right. The last time I used a second grade of red paint, it was fading within a couple years.

Think of it this way: How much will I be saving, if I have to pay for 2-3 complete paintjobs, instead of buying good paint?

The jobs I do with R-M paint, look good for 10-20 years.

I used it once to paint a friends car(he bought the paint). It takes 5 or 6 coats of the BC to cover. I would never use it again even if it was free.

Don

Originally Posted by Don Meyer

I used it once to paint a friends car(he bought the paint). It takes 5 or 6 coats of the BC to cover. I would never use it again even if it was free.

Don

I had that problem with Dupont, when they went "lead free". You had to use a special red sealer, then it still took twice as many coats!

I don't use it any more, so I can't say that Duponts reds are still like that.

I've been using R-M for about 15 years now, with NO complaints. Sherwin Williams is their second line, but fades much faster. I've been using R-M Diamont clear for about 10 years and I'm getting excellent results, with easy finishing work, too.

Ok i'm convinced. what would be the good stuff from ppg. My Dad always used good stuff, i was under the impression the budget stuff had gotten better over the years. Better not chance it. Since I did all my body work over bare metal, do I still need epoxy primer? I have the omni 170 series epoxy primer. I assume dont use it, even though same brand. Still different formula isnt it.
Get all one series of PPG.
Also, a local street rod builder said he uses B/C throughout whole project.(also doesnt like omni).
Had someonelse say to single stage under hood, door jams, and such.
for buffing reasons.
Inner bed sides would be hard to buff. whole floor is polished aluminum just the verticle peices are painted

Streetrod guy said I could get clear to shine enough without buffing in those places.

You will get a different answer from evry painter, but here is mine.

Ask your paint store about the primer, but I bet it's okay to use. Be sure to use metal prep first.

I use only urethane primer, with no problems, and my minimum is a "street and show" quality, on all jobs.

Invest an hour or so, and put a couple extra coats of clear on those bed sides. That way, if you don't like the way the flooring reflects on the sides, you can cut & buff them for a better finish, without having to paint again.

I went to ppg's web site last night, they have about 10 different series of paint. any ideas on one. only reason trying to stick with ppg is this distributor has treated the best of all of them. Carries ppg and HOK.
But they also recommended omni. Since that is out of the question. I am a first time painter, but I want it to last. I have a 55 crown vic to do after truck is done. it has too be great.

looks like the deltron dbc is the best stuff they have. price wasnt bad either.
Thanks for the warning on the omni.

Man, there are some real horror stories out there about cheaper paint. I say go ahead and use omni. It's not going to fade or fall off in a month or anything like that and I doubt that anyone could pick out an omni job over a top of the line job if it is done right.
That being said, if I had a $50,000 street rod that was spotless, perfect, trailered everywhere and never driven, I'd use top of the line paint for it too. If I had a decent looking car that I drove often, omni would be ok. Heck, if you drive it often, it'll need painting again in a few years anyway.

DBC is a good choice for PPG Dave- it covers well, and is easier to apply than the much thinner Omni line of paint.
Be sure to ask for a tech sheet and follow it to the drop and letter, if there's something that you don't understand on the tech sheet your dist. will help you with just a call- make sure that you read it all the way thru first and ask any questions before you start.
Good Luck and let us know how it comes out.....