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10-17-2012 05:49 AM #1
applying BC/CC and door jambs etc
This may be a loaded question but what is your process of painting BC/CC when it comes to door jambs and hoods and trunk lids? Do you apply both the base and clear in jambs and under lids first and then base and clear the rest of the car or do you apply the base only to the jambs and the rest of the car and then clear everything at once?
If you BC and CC the jambs first and then do the rest of the car do you tape and mask the rest of the car when doing the jambs or do you sand any overspray or do you simply ignore the overspray?
Thanks.
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10-17-2012 06:51 AM #2
Yep, loaded question.
Me, not being a pro painter, will 'jamb' it with color then do the CC over everything. But with that said, it will depend on the painter and his personal technique. What you are really looking for is color over the entire car and the slickly applied CC over the external panels while the jambs, firewalls, trunk inner panels usually aren't quite as important and get cleared while doing the rest of the car. Then there is, as you said, possibly masking off and that dreaded line where you taped and now you have to cut and buff out. No way would I try to sand a car, leaving more dust or sludge after a jamb BC/CC, try to clean then do the rest of the car external panels.
As you see, no easy answer - it's what works best for you - and hope this wasn't too confusedDave W
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10-17-2012 07:27 AM #3
I do the bc/cc on the jams, inside of the hood and trunk first let this dry, then wet sand around the openings and on the outside of the panels. I tape these off using "soft line" tape first, then regular tape and masking material, then do the outside.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
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10-17-2012 08:10 AM #4
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10-17-2012 08:25 AM #5
I wet sand til at least all the clear coat is removed.Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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10-17-2012 10:22 AM #6
Unless you plan NOT to wet sand the jambs , you can BC the whole car and tape the jambs. Then CC the rest of the car. That saves time and money and also saves lots of wetsanding.
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10-17-2012 10:43 AM #7
I usually BC/CC the jambs first, then back mask and spray the rest of the car a day or so later. How you back mask is the key, otherwise you risk overspray in the jambs, or a hardline where you have back masked.
On a smaller vehicle, I hang all the parts around the car and shoot it all at once. Then install doors, fenders,hoods, etc afterwards.
Bill S.Instead of being part of the problem, be part of a successful solution.
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10-17-2012 10:59 AM #8
I really like using the thick foam type tape that 3M makes, but dang it gets expensive!!!! I've been using their other narrow soft line tape with the vinyl top layer and adhesive below it that holds it up off the paint a bit and makes for a soft paint line, easy to wet sand out.
What do you guys use in the shop, Bill? Always looking for a bit less expensive method!!! Panel painting is a lot easier, but with metallics, Tri-coats, etc I've never been able to get the paint right unless the car is assembled??????Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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10-17-2012 04:08 PM #9
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10-17-2012 05:13 PM #10
for jobs at work i cut it in i shot the jam.s first then rolled the tape back i used 2 inch tape after sealer or base i push the tape with a glass stick or paint stick so there was on sealer or base color changes . so tape was sicky side faces the paint side .much like the 3 m. for show paint jobs i shot the parts as they would hang on the car a shoot the hole back clip.Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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10-17-2012 05:35 PM #11
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10-17-2012 06:05 PM #12
and you did not ? it.s not clear ??? ok ... paint the jambs and clear wait to dry . i tape off the out side of car when i cut jams in to keep the the clear from lifitng as the base over lap could pull up fresh clear . on the jams i tape them off up to about 1 3/4 from were you want to break it. there trick s to this. you want to be past the edge to shows up like a sore thumb if you see the break with door shut. when your about were you want the soft line you take 2 inch tap or 1 inch can work to you more or less roll the tape sticky side facing the part your paint ing this will face painted side . you stick about 1 inch down in the jam rest will over lap when door shuts tape tabs hold the 2 inch tape sticky part from lapping past the jamb when door is shut . this is the way we did door jams when 3 m did not make the tape . is this betterLast edited by pat mccarthy; 10-17-2012 at 06:31 PM.
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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10-17-2012 09:37 PM #13
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10-17-2012 10:06 PM #14
Irish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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10-17-2012 11:34 PM #15
Thanks Pat! I've painted a couple of cars as a hobbyist but it's been a while. My most recent painting experience was shooting epoxy primer on my 37 Ford fenders. Needless to say, I don't know all the tricks of the trade.....
I appreciate the visuals!! Perhaps others do too.
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