Thread: PPG Epoxy primer???
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07-30-2004 09:37 PM #16
Pure c4,
I'm not real familuar with the Blitz Black as I have never used it as I have my own way of doing the same thing , even though it might be more expensive in the long run.
I want to know what I spray on the vehice will protect the metal from moisture from penetrating the top coat and rusting the metal !( whether flat or shiny)
I know alot of guys are using it and swear by it , and am sorry I cannot give you a good answer on using it or not.
I actually have to pick up my John Deere tractor from the shop tomarrow ( the blade clutch went out ) and might see if they have any information on this paint product and see if I can read up on it and give you my oppinion.
SprayTech
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07-31-2004 06:54 PM #17
Hey SPRAY TECH I've ran into another problem!!! I can't find a clear that I can mix into my Concept. I need to find a clear that can be mixed with DU-5. Correct me if I'm wrong. If you could since you're the PPG man, tell me the correct Clear that I can mix in with my Concept. I am using DU-5 hardener with DX 61 reducer. Thanks alot man!!!
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07-31-2004 06:59 PM #18
Hey SPRAY TECH I've ran into another problem!!! I can't find a clear that I can mix into my Concept. I need to find a clear that can be mixed with DU-5. Correct me if I'm wrong. If you could since you're the PPG man, tell me the correct Clear that I can mix in with my Concept. I am using DU-5 hardener with DX 61 reducer. Thanks alot man!!!
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07-31-2004 07:11 PM #19
DCX- 61 should be a catylist for concept or
(DCC )is reduced with DT 860-870 or 885
I think DX-61 is a hardner for DBC base coat.
DU-5 is compatiable with 2021 and DCC or concept!
I for got the C in the DCX 61 in my other posts.
Spray
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08-01-2004 09:36 AM #20
So what you're saying is that I can use DCu-2021 Mixing clear in my paint? So I'm going to buy a quart of mixing clear and 8oz. of hardener for it? tell me, and thanks a whole lot.
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08-01-2004 10:53 AM #21
When DCC/Concept came out ,PPG recomended
adding a little bit of compatiable clear in the color when coverage was achieved ( like DCU- 2021).
What this did was make the color go farther and added extra UV protection.
BUT! you make darn sure you are using the same catylist for both products, as DU-5 and DCX-61
I dont think are compatiable.
SO , if you have DU-5 for your color
get DU-5 for the clear.
I found my old PPG book and heres what is says:
Color with Clear option 1
* Concept DCU-2021, DCU 2002 clears that have been catalyzed with DU hardners can be mixed with DCC Concept color reduced and catalyzed with DU hardners. You then can spary 2 more coats.
* making sure 15 minutes flash time inbetween coats.
Option 2*
- Clear mixed with the last coat of DCC color · Ready-to-spray (RTS) DCU2002, DCU2021, DCU2035 & DCU2042 with DCX Hardeners can be mixed with RTS DCC Color with DCX Hardeners. · * For best results allow 15 – 20 minutes flash before mixing clears in last coat.
If you go to that PPG site and go to : Product Information tab , Paint line, Deltron then click,
It will then go to another screen , on the left hit the drop down menu and go to TOPCOATS , then submit button.
Then in the list 2nd one down is Concept Color,
to the right is a product sheet , click that and it will pull up all the Info you will need, dry times, paint gun settings, everything.
If you read that it will answer most all of your questions.
SprayTech
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08-01-2004 01:08 PM #22
So What I should do is Mix my paint with Du-5 and DT-885, and then mix my Clear with Du-5 and Dt-885. After I mix the too separtetly then MIX THEM TOGETHER? Is this what you are telling me. ?????
I know your probably getting irritated with me but this is helping me tons, I'm more of a CENTARI man, but when it comes to my own vehicles I want the Best Of the Best. Thanks man and tell me. Thanks a whole lot!!!
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08-01-2004 01:41 PM #23
Originally posted by 300 straight
So What I should do is Mix my paint with Du-5 and DT-885, and then mix my Clear with Du-5 and Dt-885. After I mix the too separtetly then MIX THEM TOGETHER? Is this what you are telling me. ?????
I know your probably getting irritated with me but this is helping me tons, I'm more of a CENTARI man, but when it comes to my own vehicles I want the Best Of the Best. Thanks man and tell me. Thanks a whole lot!!!
I would spray 2 coats first with out clear, then add clear to color and spray 2 more coats.
Not irritated at all , Your going to spend a sum of money and want you to have good results.
You dont HAVE to add clear to your color, but PPG says it gives added gloss and UV protection , not to sound like a broken record here .
I dont spray alot of Concept any more as everything I spray is Base/Clear and to keep factory warrenty I stay Base / Clear.
Black is about the only thing I will spray in Concept.
SprayTech
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08-01-2004 02:31 PM #24
I totally see the big picture now!!! I was a little fuzzy yesterday but am sure how all the parts go together now, thanks man!!!
Thank you Roger. .
Another little bird