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If you must use a primer mix it with lacquer for a better look and some protection from rust.. Use a mix of 70% primer and 30% lacquer. Should last 8-10 months then re shoot it.


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29 , you might want to be a little more specific on your mix.
I assume you mean mixing Lacquer color with Lacquer Primer , as lacquer is only compatiable with its self.

What people dont understand is Lacquer is High IN VOC content , its why its been fased out !
Some think its not as dangerous as a catylized product , not true. Its all bad to breath , and you need to wear a Charcoal or fresh air respirator any time you spray any product.

Primer isn't a "paint" it breathes way too much & if you leave it in primer you need to buy some stock in Rust-mort.
You can get a paint that's close to the primer look called "Hammered" lines, at least it won't promote rust, and oh yeah, anywhere that you do any filler work falls out first.......enjoy

I am going to have my 30 done in black suede this spring. I am going to have it sprayed with a epoxy sealer primer. Using the epoxy primer it seals the metal and the primer is not porus as with standard primers. The epoxy suede primer job will last for many many years, and I won't have the worry of surface rust bleeding up from the metal. As far as my choice, I really like the look of old ford hotrod coupes with that suede appeal. And I don't have the worry of hiding any shoddy body work, the coupe body is as mint as they come. I guess it is all personal preference.

.....Dupont just came out with a hot rod black..its more of a semi-gloss but at least it will protect against rust

Mooneyes.... Any examples of it anywhere? When did they come out with this color? I hope HOK or PPG come out with something like that too, that will be sweet. I am sure they will throughout the years.

...it was in a magazine i read about a month ago..i tried to find it but could"nt...they painted a 55 or so chevy pickup..i cant even remember what mag it was...if you ever painted rustolium semi gloss black out of a spray can..from what it looked like in the mag it was exactly the same..if i find the mag i'll let you know

Ok sweet. I definetely wan't to check that out.

.......found it...........Oct issue of Streettrucks................Dupont part # HHM-6400....and it's called hot rod black...i'm really thinking of using this on my 70 chevy pickup...its black primer right now and i only drive it in the summer but keeping it clean is almost impossible and of course it fades pretty quick.......and the way they talk in the article its pretty cheap..but they never give a price

Hmm... I wonder how good that stuff is??? I could maybe get some for my golf cart since I need to paint it anyways and see how it holds up and put pics on here, updates, etc...

...that would be great....i'd like to see what it looks like before i put it on my truck...not to metion hear how well it go's on...the mag talks it up but i'm sure there was some $$$$$$ involved...i should have done that with my winter beater but instead i just spray bombed it with rustolium semi gloss black...

so far i see it..flat black is sweet if you live in areas with low rainfall etc... it does soak like a bitch ,and any bondo or whatever will lift from the repair given time......
a trick some one once told me which works sweet, i've tried it, is ...
cheap satin black cellulose, let it cure... and give the car a once over with a can of wd40 penetrating oil/corrosion protector...gives the paint an awesome semi sheen... and makes it resilient against water...do it maybe once or twice a yr..

but... i have a new supplier of satin Black cellulose,and its frickin awesome stuff...covers sweet,and seals against water jus fine.. i can supply ya with that stuff from a litre to pretty much whatever ya quantity want.... we tested it on my roadmaster,and the result is alot better than i thought ...

I noticed DuPont was already mentioned, but check into their newer line called "hot hues" I prefer dupont to begin with, although i never worked with any of the hot hues products before. for the gloss flames, you could also spray a single stage over the flat black, the only problem with that is you will still have your tape edges on the flames
Good Luck!

Oh and i forgot to mention that duponts line is a normal base coat/clear coat, it just has a flattening agent in it, and it will act the same as any other clear coat. I woulid have someone with a lot of experience spray the flat though, because it is very tricky with the way the clear flashes and how it is overlapped. I'm not sure if you will be able to get away from the edges on the flames if you go with a flat base color, if i think of any ways ill post it up!

as far as the sealer and primer and everything prior to the base coat, it can be done as if you were doing a normal paint job, and I wouldnt worry too much about any filler or bodywork showing since the only difference is the flattening agent in the clear.

Mines a glass body. I used etch primer flatted followed by cellulose......I think you call laquer? Used 50/50 with anti bloom thinners.

I was advised that I could wax over and not get a gloss. Or use bumper black.

My friends who have Satin paint used spray tins and they look just as good. I couldn't get a good finish on horizontal surfaces...hood, trunk and roof. So I flatted and sprayed with tins.

Reason for flat paint? I can't afford a gloss job and if flat paint gets scratched I can just blow over from a tinny. Also I think Flat paint looks wicked.