Thread: VW head tools wanted
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05-05-2008 08:29 PM #1
VW head tools wanted
Hi Ya gang,
I have the pleasure of rebuilding 3 VW saw mill motors haha
and would like to get some VW "factory" tools for doing the heads.
buy borrow or trade
I want to replace the valve guides but don't want to beat the drift with a hammer
what we want
1.the fixture that holds the head
2.coring drill for removing the valve guides 8mm
or if could just get the specs/pictures on what the fixture for the head looks like? Maybe we could build what we need.
I tried the VW`sites also
Just thought I'd ask
thanks
hank
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05-05-2008 08:44 PM #2
well you will need a hammer/ air hammer and a drill look at goodson last one i did was thin wall bronze liners you may get all valves and new guilds from PEP or SBIIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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05-05-2008 08:51 PM #3
Goodson or Assenmacher tools.What if the "Hokey Pokey" is what it's really all about?
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05-05-2008 08:58 PM #4
if you get new guildes you can drill them out with a core drill and knock out what is left then you heat the head in a oven then freeze the guilde and drive it in with a guilde driver then just do a valve job i done harleys heads about the same thingIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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05-07-2008 07:46 AM #5
thanks guys
hank
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05-10-2008 07:26 AM #6
valve guide removal
Hey Guy, There is a safe way to get them out without drilling. You can tap them, screw in a piece of all thread, use a piece of tubing or a deep socket with 2 washers and pull it.Don.t use an impact wrench, just take your time and do it by hand.I built VW engines for 30 years, probably pulled a couple thousand like this. as far as putting them back in. lube them with antiseize compound take a 5/16 x 1 1/5 allen head bolt with a tight fitting washer use a round nose driver and vibrate them in with an air chisel at low pressure. there is a shoulder on the guide, leave about .010 to .015 clearance between that and the head boss.don't try to press them in. use this method and you will have great results. Jeff
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05-10-2008 07:53 AM #7
OK motorman Jeff I'll give your method a try
I've got a few heads to practice on before we do the "good" ones
thanks
hank
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05-10-2008 08:12 AM #8
yep you can do it this way to they make a kit for harleys you can make a tapper seat that will center on the 45 seat angle and some small thrust washers on the nut side that you draw with if you want to put them in this way to .i put some wd 40 and drive them in by hand i have seen part of the head bust out with a air hammer you have a better feel driving them by hand for first timmers . but there many ways to do this .you will just have to pick one. i like to file some tapper just on the front part only put the guide in a drill or lathe and file it to keep it from getting started cockyIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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05-10-2008 11:58 AM #9
Like Pat said about tapering the leading edge, that is a good thing! Most of the guide manufacturing co. put a 1/4" of smaller od for the line up. The main thing is to get them started streight. I highly recomend using antiseize on the guides. they like to gauld.and if you do drive them in with a hammer, don't mushroom the top of the guide.If you do, you will have one more to practice on. While you have the exh guides out you might take out some of the guide boss that blocks the exh port. This will make them flow a lot better. the intake side is good just the way they are.I raced a bug back in the mid 70's with a set of modified dual ports (home made race heads) ran 11.50s @ 109 mph. Had a ball.Don't know what you are building, but a few mods can be done for free that make a big diff. Good Luck. Jeff
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05-10-2008 10:24 PM #10
motorman and Pat
This is what we are rebuilding(X3) we have 3 to do.
http://towd.smugmug.com/photos/215259288_bcPMH-M.jpg
These modified VW motors have extentions welded on both ends of the crank
"flywheel side " has a bearing housing with a Heavy duty thrust bearing for the 6 groove pulley that drive the 3 blades.
the other end has a crank driven fan (like the type 3 and 4 VW motors).
1700cc estimate 60hp runs at 2200rpm
will cut huge logs or small and cuts dimensional boards-
dial in a 2x6 it cuts it and brings the board back
put it in gear again and while you are stacking the board it cuts another all day long.
of course any tips would be helpful and appreciated
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05-10-2008 10:39 PM #11
neat saw get the heads off and go from there you can do the guides many way but the vw heads do crack thru the ports from use and if the guides are beat out bad you could be looking at new seats toIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
Thank you Roger. .
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