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There's always John Deere Blitz Black too heh. If I buy this 53 chevy truck then it will be chopped, lowered on a budget, orig. inline 235, and painted with flat John Deere BB. Only reason I am doing this is because all the money I put into it will be put into putting a new brake system in it and getting the engine running like new and the rust gone. With the little money I have left over I will paint it with the 22 dollars a gallon John Deere Blitz Black and then whatever else and just get it on the road. After that I will work on getting the 48 done and the 48 won't have nothing like a rat rod look. I agree though, if you know me you would know I like to be different, I hate doing what everyone else does and rat rodding is the same thing but I like it and liked it before I saw it all over tv and all (well I first started seeing it in mags a while back and kind of got idea's from there a bit) but I thought who cares, it's not big in NC at all and everyone here won't like it most likely but I will because it get's me from point A to point B.

...1923 Dodge roadster with a 24 Red Ram Hemi in it. ...

sounds good to me!
A guy at my church is building a small hemi (I forget if it is a Dodge or DeSoto )
for his next proect... is building a blower manifold for it. He does nice work!

Originally posted by rocknrod
I dont hink mine is boring or un-creative. I was going to paint it primer black. But then "Everybody" is doing it now.
Kind of like when I was in High School. Everybody was a wanna be hippie. So I decided I was going to go against the grain and cut my hair. I just don't like doing what everybody else does. And now everybody is going primer, so . . . . . .

I hear you Rocknrod. When I was growing up, if you painted your rod it meant you was going to sell it. Just a part of the early 60's.

Heck my lead sled 51 Chevy Bel Air Hardtop was blue and white with three different colors of primer where I had filled in the door handles, trunk handle, leaded in where the bullnosing went down the hood. etc, etc. Owned in 62/63 until my younger brother (1 year younger) conned me into trading it off for a 57 ford 312 Custom 300 with 2/4's. Biggest mistake I ever made.

FMX, I just did my ride in JD BB. Email me if you've never used it before; the learning curve was fierce.

I love all the pic's of the cars looked like a good show I never saw the JD black before is it agood paint and who makes it.? it looked good on your mustang. the grill is cool

Was_II, it won't let me Email you. It says you won't allow emailing. Email me at metalmaniac015@yahoo.com because I plan to use the John Deere BB paint and have heard about the paint comming up if you don't shoot it right or something because of it drying so fast.
Thanks for any info you can give me on that, it will save me the time and little money I have!

Tell ya what; I'll just post what I found; hopefully it'll help others.

We used the JDBB with about a 10/1 mixture of mineral spirits as a thinner. I had read on another forum that the JDBB / JD thinner / hardener mix dried very quickly and caused streaking.

We had masked off the original Polar White and shot gloss white onto it after the first coat of JDBB. We did not shoot the gloss over the black.

After about 18 hours (the following morning), I tried wet-sanding the JDBB with 600 grit on a rubber block. The paint was so soft that it balled up, and the water left heinous streaks in the JDBB that would not come up. Even then, handprints burned into the finish, and I made the mistake of leaning my jeans against a fender -- it left a Silly Putty-like impression of the fabric that had to be sanded out.

We reshot the sides after about four hours of extremely frustrating sanding. This was Sunday. It's now Wednesday -- it's had two full days of 60-65-degree sunshine -- and I'm told that the paint is finally hard enough to finish sand. I haven't seen it; it's down at my father-in-law's house, some 40 miles away.

I've read on other forums that though the flash time is ~15 minutes, it takes the paint 36 hours to cure; I would think that the 36-hour figure is for, say, Southern California in June. We found about a 20-minute window to shoot touch-ups.

The mineral spirits gave it a nice shine and it cured and hardened to a beautiful satin finish. I'm happy with the finish now; it's just a twelve-letter-word to work with.

Hope this helps.

- Joey

Was_II. I read all about it on hotrod hot line forums. They say it's better to shoot it in colder weather. They say to use 10:1:1 ratio which is one part hardener and one part thinner.
I do not know much about painting at all like the different types of paint like something with two stage paint and one stage, I have no clue what that is and means or nothing. Anyone wanna give me some info on this? If so then please email me (I don't wan't to get off subject on here).
Thanks.

i am also working on my rad rod t bucket and am going to spray it with blitz black but am going to add some of the jd semi gloss black to the mix approx 1/3 to give the paint a little sheen and sealer.
has anyone else done this and had any results?
i am also restoring a older brit bike(Excelsior)and sprayed the frame wheels and other parts with jd semigloss and jd thinner and got surprisingly good results it looks a lot like powdercoat.

What will happen if you don't use a clear over the JD BB paint? I don't know why I have been seeing people lately saying they are using the clear to seal it because it isn't like the paint will rust anyways so what is the deal with that? I am just wondering in case I have been missing something. I know a clear kind of protects the paint and all but other than that it won't rust underneath right?

hey fmx i am not shure but i think the idea is the flat paint will absorb moisture and it will migrate though to the under layers.
i dont quite understand why as its paint and shouldnt absorb any moisture. my dads got a jd combine with green jd paint from 1983 and it actually still looks pretty good. black basecoat is pretty well flat before you clear it and the shine comes from the clear.

Yeah. I don't think you really have to clear it though. It wouldn't make sense for it to go through like primer.

The discussion of paint for rat rods is certainly interesting and related to this string. FYI, there's more helpful info on another forum.

Club Hot Rod Forums > ALL HOT ROD TALK AREA > Shop Talk > Paint Tech > flat black paint.

I suggest further paint-related posts would fit better in the other forum, though please keep up with this forum and let us know your progress. Stay tuned to this string for rat-rod descriptions and photos. Thanks for your participation.

Kid

Wow, I actually went back and read most of this thread (I got to about page 8). I think I'm going to go beat my head with a rubber mallet now. H-D makes a high temp flat black that's tough as nails and goes on really easy. Since you guys are talking about paint. Not as cheap as the ole spray bomb method, but better then an earl shibe job.

H-D?