Thread: 27 chevy p/u
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07-23-2013 03:39 PM #331
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Nice bed and cool pics Scooting! Do you have a thread on your car? I'm missing having a put together 40 right now.Ryan
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05-26-2014 09:26 AM #332
when i replaced the kingpins they were so hard to turn that i think i screwed up the guts in my new steering box trying to break them in.
i will have to open it up and take a peek.
if it does need rebuilding i am considering buying another brand new box instead of rebuilding.
since i dont have a press and some of the other big tools needed it might behoove me to do so.
we shall see.
the symptoms are
i will be going straight and it will want to be pulling left
hit a bump and it jumps to the right a few feet
and then is pulling right.
i think it is skipping on the teeth inside the box.a hot rod is whatever i decide it is.
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05-26-2014 09:35 AM #333
Its not skipping teeth----your king pins are too tight and need to have the bushings honed for proper clearance AND alignment of the bushings---the right clearance isn't right unless the bushings are honed/reamed with thr proper extra length hone/reamer where both bushings are done at same time---------
Edit---I went back and read some earlier posts and initially decide to delete my response today but decided it might be a help to someone else later on and decided to leave it---after all ZZ decided to ignor me last year----------Last edited by jerry clayton; 05-26-2014 at 09:57 AM.
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05-26-2014 04:09 PM #334
Jerry is correct. It is very unlikely that your steering box is skipping teeth. If something inside was broken it would more likely be sloopy loose or it would lock up and not work at all. If you did not ream the bushings after you installed them in the spindles, they are probably too tight and misaligned. Did you have to force the kingpins in with a clamp or beat them in with a hammer? If so, you have a problem... After installing new bushings in a spindle, they have to be reamed so that the kingpin will slide in with gentle pressure. THEN.., after the bushings are properly reamed, the spindles are assembled to the axle and the kingpins locked in place.
The symptoms you describe sound like the kingpins are so tight that the steering doesn't have any "rebound" (the steering comes back to straight on its own) and it just stays wherever it was pointed last. IF that's the case you'll need to take it back apart, rent a reamer from the local parts store and make the necessary cut. While you have the steering box disconnected from the front axle you can check it for slop and rough spots. If it operates smoothly it's good to go.Jim
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05-26-2014 05:12 PM #335
Times 3.. I don't think the problem is in the box. When you assembled the kingpins originally you mentioned the front being hard to turn but was getting better. It's probably still to tight and should be disassembled and measured. When properly "fitted", the new kingpin should slide into place with a minimum of pressure but no appreciable play.
You''ll need a micrometer and an adjustable reamer at a minimum and after measuring the kingpin, set the reamer for another 1 to 2 thousandths over to give the pin room. Pass the reamer through with a few spins round and test fit the kingpin back into the bore. Rinse and repeat if needed. ( Caution, once you remove material, you cannot reinstall it! go to much and you'll be forced to replace the bushing!)
There shouldn't be any "break-in" period, and everything should move free and easy when assembled. HTH
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05-26-2014 05:45 PM #336
For sure ream the bushings to the proper size for your kingpin, but on an old style steering box on an early Jeep I was chasing steering slop and decided to adjust the backlash on the steering gear, using the locked adjustment screw on top. It was sweet, took all of the play out of the wheel, but then I turned it away from center and it locked in place. The worm had worn a bit in the center portion, but not on the extremes so when I adjusted out all the slop in the middle it was an interference fit on both ends. If you played with the gearbox adjustment you may want to revisit that with the box disconnected like Jim mentioned above.Roger
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