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12-09-2004 05:42 PM #1
turn signals integrated into model A headlight bar
I am still trying to figure out some kind of signal lights for front of the roadster pickup, other than bolt on "aftermarket" lights. I took a couple of measurements today, and it seems like my headlight bar is about 3/4" too short. This gets me thinking, if I got to put a peice in my ratty old flea market headlight bar, maybe I can get creative and machine some mild steel housings that will accept a readily available amber lens, and integrate the housings into the headlight bar???? Has anybody done that, or seen it done?----Pictures????Old guy hot rodder
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12-09-2004 05:48 PM #2
Are ya going fenderless or fendered? If ya go fendered, you could smooth turn signals into the fenders, it would look clean, simple and cool.You don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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12-09-2004 06:21 PM #3
I am going to run full fenders, but the bodywork is all done, and I don't want to start messin with it again.Old guy hot rodder
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12-09-2004 06:34 PM #4
It was worth mentioning anyway. How about putting an amber colored light bar into the headlight bar by notching the bar out a little then putting the light bar in the notch, I saw somthing like that b4, can't remember where., or wolden't that work.You don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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12-10-2004 05:27 PM #5
Denny--I don't think that I could add them between the headlight and the end of the bar that attaches to the fender, as this portion of the bar is a solid forging. The 2 forged outer ends are attached by a hollow tube which starts just inboard from the center of each forged light "cup" which are in the forged ends. I am using the headlight bar off a 28/29, and it is a straight center tube, not curved like the 30/31 model A's. If I was rich instead of good looking, I would buy a set of the 32-34 commercial headlights which can be ordered with a set of signal lights built into the housings. (the signal light hides behind the headlight lens and is only visible when turned on). Trouble is, a set of those babies is over $300, whereas a set of chrome king-bees with 7" sealed beams and no signal are less than $100Old guy hot rodder
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12-10-2004 05:51 PM #6
The ones I put on my 32 were mounted just inside the fender where it meets the frame rails. There are about 2" square. If you don't like the square ones, take a peek at some of the ones that they use on the motorcycles, which are 2" round bullets shaped similar to the headlights. This might be a little tough to see in this picture. If you want to see what the round ones look like, you'll have to wait till Monday when I get back to work to take a picture of them.Mike Casella
www.1960Belair.com
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12-10-2004 06:01 PM #7
The attached .jpg is a solid model that I just created with my engineering software, showing what I was thinking of. This would be turned on a lathe from a peice of 2" round stock, and one face milled flat, then the cavity milled out. A bulb would be inserted thru the back side, and an amber lens glued or screwed into place in the front. The 2 ends which are turned to 3/4" dia would be butt welded into the headlight bar, after an equal length of headlight bar was removed.Old guy hot rodder
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12-10-2004 06:09 PM #8
I stole your picture, and I'll see if I can make a prototype out of aluminum on Monday. If I can do it without too much trouble, I'll see if I can do it in steel.Mike Casella
www.1960Belair.com
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12-10-2004 06:15 PM #9
Denny---your right, That is not a bad look, with the signal light cloned onto the headlight bucket. I believe that originally most of the early Chevs had "guide" headlights with this type of signal light. My roadster pickup will have very little chrome on it------------headlights, baby moon hubcaps and beauty rings, on wheels painted same colour as the body. I know that I can buy chromed king bees, but have never seen them offered with this signal light option. I could probably chase down a set of early Chev headlights, but they wouldn't be chrome, and I am too cheap to have a set chromed. By the way, the last 3 cars I built had 32 grill shells, and I made the grill insert myself from cold rolled 3/16" steel rod, painted flat black.----looks great, costs less than $25Old guy hot rodder
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12-10-2004 06:28 PM #10
Pro60Chevy---I just love your 60 Chev---my first real drag car was a 60 Chev Impala, 2 door hardtop. I paid $850 for it used, in 1967. It had been modified by a previous owner, to a 283 high performance engine with double bump heads and a Borg Warner t10 four speed. I was 21 years old, was in my second year of an engineering apprenticeship, had the prettiest girlfriend and the fastest car in town. I thought I was a God. I loved to race this car---there was so damn much car hung out past the rear tires that it was almost impossible to break the tires loose. I used to run against 396 Camaros, and while they sat in the lights and smoked I could pull a 3 car length hole shot on them before they started to move. Two times out of 3 they would pass me in the last 300 feet of the quarter mile, but Oh Man, did I ever brag about the other third, when I shut down cars 7 years newer than mine. Now I'm an old guy, 58---the car has long gone to that big crusher in the sky, and the girlfriend who became a wife has been gone for 23 years, but your car brings back some great memories. Thank YouOld guy hot rodder
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12-10-2004 07:33 PM #11
I saw these at a show and plan to use em on my next build, turn signals built INTO the headlight http://www.yogisinc.com/Detail.cfm/-...1C/product.htm
Objects in the mirror are losing
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12-10-2004 09:12 PM #12
If you want to go with round lights instead of rectangular, might I suggest amber side clearance lights from any '68 Mopar. The only year they were round.Ken Thomas
NoT FaDe AwaY and the music didn't die
The simplest road is usually the last one sought
Wild Willie & AA/FA's The greatest show in drag racing
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12-11-2004 12:15 AM #13
I've got a 31 Ford Coupe with stock headlight buckets lenses and trim rings, I bought a quartz kit from All Fords in San Jose, CA for $97 in 2002. The kit comes with reflectors, h4 bulbs, 1157 running/turn bulbs, wiring and cork gaskets. The kit has H4 bulbs for bright/dim headlights and 1157 running/turn signals bulbs in the reflector just above the h4 bulbs, looks cool. It's a nice look, and clean.
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12-11-2004 01:18 AM #14
I'll try to get you a pic this weekend!
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12-11-2004 06:09 PM #15
Can't post any pictures, I get a 240 second error message. My connection must be to slow. I will try again late sunday night.
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