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    R&P inner tie rods

     



    I am putting a 85 escort power rack in my falcon. The inner tie rods need to be shortened and re-threaded 1.25 inch. I would prefer to have new tie rods of the correct length. Given that the inner tie rod sockets are the same on lots of different r&p I was hoping to find one with the right length.

    Unforunately, all the references for inner tie rods have been by vehicle and not by specifications.

    Any help in pointing me to a reference by specificaton will be appreciated.
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    If you have a good education in front end and steering geometry and have figured out mathmatically that this will work, great, go for it. If not, I think you're setting yourself up for a severe case of bump steer.

    With R&P, there are no inner tie rods, there are no outer tie rods, there are just........tie rods, one left and one right.
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    I disagree. Every service bulletin I have looked at from MOOG have referred to it as an inner tie rod. I included a link to one such bullentin if you would care to take a look.

    Given the inherent bump steer on falcon and mustangs I doubt seriously if it wiil be worse. At any rate with springs removed where the suspension can moved through its range of motion toe in changes can be easily measured.

    http://www.federal-mogul.com/fmeconn...loads/2254.pdf
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    O.K., then I need to gripe at the idiot at Moog who wrote that and you're off the hook. The fact that they refer to the only tie rod on the car as an inner tie rod suggests that there is an outer tie rod, which there isn't.

    It's like the guys who refer to normally aspirated. There is NO normally aspirated, there is only naturally aspirated and artificially aspirated.

    You're right about running the control arms up and down without springs. You'll need to set up a dial indicator and observe steer of 0.060" or less through the range from full bump to full droop to keep yourself out of trouble.

    Good luck and I applaud you for trying this. Let us know how it works out.
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    OK, since I'm new be nice lol.All of the rack and pinions I have seen only have 2 tie rods one left and one right,they have an inner ball and socket but no inner tie rod. Now my question,if a motor is electric and an engine is gas ,why do they make motor oil for our ENGINES? LOL HUMMM

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    Same here

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    http://www.napaonline.com/cgi-bin/nc...grpid=64361785

    the ball is called a tie rod end.
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    Originally posted by lt1s10
    http://www.napaonline.com/cgi-bin/nc...grpid=64361785

    the ball is called a tie rod end.

    this is the outer for the 1985 escort
    http://www.napaonline.com/cgi-bin/nc...grpid=64361811
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