Thread: CAD Drawings for 40 Chevy or 49 Ford

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Looking for CAD drawings of a 1949 Ford Panel Truck & a 1940 Chevy Truck....

All out drag...

Thanks for the assistance, but I'll keep looking.

acho.....

sorry to burst your bubble, but the likelihood of finding cad files for a complete car are less than zero. Finding cad files for an engine is right there at zero....especially files that have any detail to them. Doing a body in cad after the fact requires digitizing in 3D....not many folks have that capability. Newer stuff is done in CAD so it exists but older stuff has no payback. We are doing our 32 ford frame in cad.....but we have $almost $5000 in labor $so far and $we arent $done. .... and we arent doing compound surfaces like a fender.

mike in tucson

Didn't mean to be a smart A$$ with my drawing.

I don't know what you need the CAD drawing for but have you tried this website? Not really a CAD drawing but manuals are avaiable.

http://www.gregsonline.com/eshop/Assembly/47TFA.htm

Hope this helps!

Pat

Sorry, We are rather new to this, We went to Kansas for the goodguys show this weekend and met a guy that said he does all his work on cad before he touches the vehicle! Talked like it was no big deal and you might even find the drawings on the internet for the vehicle we are working on../ 1949 Ford Panel Truck & 1940 Chevy Truck.

Being new to this we ordered this set of videos and have several friends that are familiar with this type of work.... I just feel better if I have a book or something to refer to. Does anyone know if these video's are any good?

http://carestoration.com/cgi-bin/sho...tml/category=1

Thanks for the help, just not sure where to start? What type of motor will fit and so forth.....

Why would a guy need CAD drawings before he started work on a vehicle?

Coach-Builders, line mechanics and hot rodders have been building and repairing cars for a long, long time without CAD's.

Sounds like a - hard to believe - bragging point or a sales pitch to me.

C9x.... your question is valid... we are doing the frame on the 32 in cad because we are making our own radius rods, motor mounts, a/c compressor mount, alternator mount, etc and therefore we need to make drawings for the machinist....and cad is easier and we can check clearances.....

On the other hand, I dont know of a reason to have a cad model of a body since any changes or mods arent done on a CNC machine.... any older body is unlikely to match the model anyway.

mike in tucson

Originally posted by robot
C9x.... your question is valid... we are doing the frame on the 32 in cad because we are making our own radius rods, motor mounts, a/c compressor mount, alternator mount, etc and therefore we need to make drawings for the machinist....and cad is easier and we can check clearances.....

On the other hand, I dont know of a reason to have a cad model of a body since any changes or mods arent done on a CNC machine.... any older body is unlikely to match the model anyway.

mike in tucson

I understand the reasons for CAD, but right up front it sounded like the guy was simply trying to impress acho_chevy.

If the guy was doing repeats like it appears you will do, then I can see using CAD.

Other than that, it strikes me as being similar to the friend of a friend who came over to my shop for some header repairs.
He takes one look at my nice little all-aluminum Marquette torch and informs me rather snottily he wouldn't have nothin' but a Victor.

I found his non-torch owning attitude interesting since he was getting free work and didn't own a torch nor did he know how to weld.

I have a hard time with free-loading name droppers....


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Are you making the entire frame from scratch or using it to set commercial frame rails up very precisely?

Looks too like you'll be knocking out accessory brackets and the like.

Long as you're fooling with CAD, why not set up to make some column drops that carry instruments?
Moon, amongst others, used to make several styles of these.
One that held, two 2 1/6" S-W instruments, another one four and I believe they made one that carried the tach and a couple of 2 1/6" instruments.
Along with the steering column hole.

Make em as old school as you can.
Meaning rounded edges on the front that appear cast and stay away from sharp edges that ID it as simply another billet piece.

This strikes me as an ideal product for CNC stuff.

I haven't thought about these in quite a while.
Maybe I'll knock one out in my little shop....

Mike,

I don't supose you've reduced the Mustang II front end to AutoCAD or Solidworks blocks? We're laying out our frame right now having digitized the pickup's cab and bed basics. One of my vendors will do the frame rails and crossmembers for me if supplied in cad format. If I can get the data for the spindle and upper and lower control arms it should make this process very easy to finish off.

Thanks, Mark

MAW,
Sorry, we're doing a SuperBell dropped axle with custom made wishbones and hidden air bags. Part of the CAD intent is to check out the travel and see where it binds before we cut metal since machine time is $$. Havent ever seen a MII file but it should be in demand. I have found that, if someone spends the time to do an ACCURATE cad model, they are reluctant to pass it around.

C9x..... I have thought about the same thing that you described. How to make stuff look like it's an older, cast piece instead of a billet shiny part. The challenge is how to develop a series of components that are in demand so you can cover the cad time and the CNC time..... we have done valve cover parts that came out real nice but the machine time was kinda pricey.....more than buying the covers...but they were custom and we only did one pair.

On our 32, I would like to try a dash that had zero instrument holes in the dash....a really smooth dash.....but then, where to put the instruments? I bought a 2000 STS dash panel with the blackout instruments (edge lighted speedo and tach), etc. but the thing is on a proprietary bus that is impossible to integrate. I also looked at heads up displays but in a roadster the sun on the inside of the windshield washes out the projection. The Moon colum drop location could work.

mike in tucson

I also looked at heads up displays but in a roadster the sun on the inside of the windshield washes out the projection. The Moon colum drop location could work.

I hear you on the sunshine washing things out.
Here's a pic of my 32's dash, I like it, but when the sun is low and behind you all is lost in the reflection.

The steering wheel et al reflect badly as well, but it doesn't happen too often.

It does seem that a Moon drop digi-instrument location would be workable.
For several reasons, one being that the driver's body would shade the panel.

C9x... dash looks really nice but I see your point about the sun on it. Maybe we should develop a synthesized (sp?) voice that tells you the speed, oil pressure.....oh yea, the wife does that already.

Another idea we had was a plain, no hole dash with an instrument panel that automatically lowered when the car was started. It stowed behind the dash and lowered like a license plate retractor....the instruments hung just below the dash lower lip when in service......then, when the car was parked, no gauges or switches are showing.

For us, the challenge is how to look kinda retro and hide all the modern stuff......

mike in tucson

ok its not a cad file but did you ever look at the drawings in the back of a wescot catalog. or ive got a great drawing of a 32 ford frame on my desk that says its from www.cruisinproducts.com maybe they have the one your looking for. this has all the bolt hole locations and frame measurments.