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    how to deal with "rare" bolt pattern on wheels? 4x98

     



    Hello everybody
    i'm restauring a small car (fiat 600 D) and i need new wheels.
    the bolt pattern is 4x98, it seems to be hard to find wheels for my car.
    anyone to help me?

    thanks

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    Perhaps this will help.


    #studs/BC STUD SIZE COMMON APPLICATION

    5 x 4.5" 1/2" Older Full size Ford & Chrysler Products
    5 x 4.75" 7/16" Chevy Camero & Most Older Full Size Chevrolet
    5 x 5" 5/8" Grand National & Most Older Full-Size GM Cars
    5 x 5.5" 1/2" 1/2 Ton Ford Pickups, Most Jeeps, & International Scouts
    6 x 5.5" 7/16" Older Model Chevy & GM Pickups, Some Late Blazer & Datsun
    8 x 6.5" 1/2" All 8 Hole 3/4 Ton Trucks
    5 x 7.75" 5/8" Old Wide 5 Hole Volkswagen
    5 x 10.25" 5/8" Modified 37 Ford, Skeleton or Wide 5 Pattern
    6 x 5" 6-Pin Sprint Car 5/8 Drive Pin
    6 x 5" 6-Pin Midget 1/2" Drive Pin
    4 x 98mm Fiat
    4 x 100mm Chevy Chevette, Plymouth K-Car, Isuzu, & Renault
    5 x 100mm All GM A, J, & X Body Front Wheel Drive some Mopar
    4 x 4" Vega & GM '80 & Older Skyhawk, Starfire, Astro & Sunbird
    5 x 4" Plymouth Duster, Scamp, Valiant, Dodge, "A" Body Mopar
    4 x 4.25" Pinto, T-Birds, Other Ford Small Cars, Some Porsche
    4 x 110mm Some Renault & Mazdas
    4 x 4.5" Older Mustangs & Capri 6 Cyl, Some Datsun, MG, Mazda & Toyota
    4 x 120mm Some Mazda & Honda
    4 x 130mm Volkswagen & Some Porsche
    4 x 140mm Subaru
    5 x 6.5" Land Rover

    5 Bolt Wheels

    5 on 100mm (3.937")
    Buick - Century, Skylark, Skyhawk FWD '79-'87
    - LeSabre, Riviera, Somerset '85-'88
    Chevrolet - Beretta, Citation, Cavalier, Celebrity, Corsica
    '80-'89
    Chrysler - Laser, Lebaron '85-'87
    Dodge - Daytona, Aries, Charger, Lancer, Caravan '85-'89
    Oldsmobile - Calais, Ciera, FWD '82-'87
    - Firenza, Omega FWD '79-'86
    Plymouth - Sundance '87-'89
    Pontiac - 6000, Grand Am, J2000, Sunbird, etc. FWD '82-'87
    - Fiero '82-'88

    5 on 4 (101.6 mm)
    '64-'69 Mopar "A" 13"
    '65-'76 Mopar "A" 14"
    Dodge - Aspen, Dart, Demon, Swinger (w/o discs) '63-'72Plymouth - Barracuda, Duster, Valiant (w/o discs) '61-'74

    5 on 4-1/4 (108 mm)
    Volvo 140, 164 15"
    Volvo - all to '89
    Ford - T-Bird '89

    5 on 112mm (4.409")
    Audi - 5000 Turbo, Quattro '86-'87
    Mazda - RX7 GSL '86-'87
    Mercedes - all '77-'89
    VW - Transporter, Vanagon '71-'89

    5 on 4-1/2 (114.3 mm)
    AMC Gremlin, Hornet, Pacer, Javelin, Matator, AMX
    AMC - most models (exc. Jeep) '40-'89
    Chrysler/DeSoto - all full size RWD cars (exc. Imperial) '37-'89
    Datsun/Nissan - 1600-2000 '65-'73
    - 300ZX, 200SX V6 (some) to '89
    Dodge van
    Dodge 1/2 ton P.U.
    Dodge - all full size cars & P.U.'s '37-'89
    - Dart, Demon, Swinger '73-'80
    Ford 1/2 ton van
    Ford Granada, Monarch
    Ford - All full size cars '49-'72; '79-'85
    - Fairlane '62-'79
    - T-Bird '55-'71; '77-'79
    - Mustang 5-bolt '65-'73
    - Maverick 5-bolt all
    - Mustang SVO '85-'86
    - Ranchero '68-'84
    - Aerostar, Probe, Bronco II/Ranger to '89
    Hudson - all '48-'56
    Lincoln - all '70-'72; '80-'89
    Mazda - RX7 Turbo, 626, 929, MX6 '86-'89
    Mercury - all full size cars '52-'54; '61-'72; '79-'85
    - Cougar '67-'79
    Mopar '73-up "A" body
    Plymouth - all full size cars '37-'89
    - Barracuda '70-'74
    - Duster, Valiant, Volare '73-'80
    Pontiac - Tempest, LeMans '61-'63
    Studebaker - all '51-'66
    Toyota Crown, Hilux P.U.Toyota - 2WD P.U. '69-'89
    - Supra Turbo '86-'89
    Volvo 122, 1800

    5 on 115mm (4.527")
    Buick - Century, Electra, LeSabre, Regal, Riviera (some) '83-'89
    Cadillac - Allante, most others '84-'89
    Chevrolet - Celebrity '85-'89
    Oldsmobile - Regency, Ciera, Cutlass, Delta 88 '84-'89
    Pontiac - 6000 '83-'89
    - Bonneville, Grand Am '86-'89

    5 on 120mm (4.72")
    BMW 2500, 2800, 3.0, 520, 530, 630, 730
    BMW - all 5 bolt to '89

    5 on 4-3/4 (120.6 mm)
    Buick - Regal, Century, Special (most mid-size) '64-'80's
    Chevy van
    Chevrolet - all (exc. as noted elsewhere) '49-'89
    Corvette all
    Corvair '65-'69 5-bolt
    GM compact and midsize
    Oldsmobile - 442, Cutlass, F-85, Toronado
    (most mid-size) '60's-'80's
    Pontiac - GTO, LeMans, Firebird, Grand Prix
    (mid size) '64-'80's

    5 on 5 (127 mm)
    Austin-Healy 3000
    Buick LeSabre, Centurion, Riviera, Electra
    Buick - Electra, LeSabre, Riviera, (most full-size) '35-'87
    Cadillac - DeVille, Fleetwood '38-'89
    - SeVille '77-'79
    Chevrolet 3/4 ton vans
    Chevrolet - Bel Air, Biscayne, Impala, Caprice, Kingswood '71-'76
    - above w/HD package wagons '77-'89
    - Blazer 2WD '71-'83
    Chrysler - Imperial '67-'71
    Ford, LTD '73-'75
    Ford - T-Bird '72-'76
    - Galaxie, LTD, Custom '73-'78
    Lincoln - all (exc Versailles) '60-'67; '73-'79
    Mercury - all '55-'60
    - Cougar, XR7 '73-'77Oldsmobile - all full size RWD '40-'87
    Packard - all '51-'55
    Pontiac - all full size RWD '40-'86
    Rover

    5 on 130mm (5.118")
    Porsche - 911, 912, 944 to '89

    5 on 5-1/2 (139.7 mm)
    AMC - Jeep (5 bolt) '42-'89
    Chrysler - 8 cyl. & wagon '46-'55
    - Imperial '54-'66
    Ford 2 ton van
    Ford Bronco, F100
    Ford - all '28-'48
    - full size P.U., van, Bronco '49-'89
    International Scout, Travelall
    Lincoln - all '52-'60
    Mercury - all '39-'51
    Suzuki - Samurai '86-'89


    4 Bolt Wheels

    4 on 3-3/4 (95.2 mm)
    Austin Marina
    Triumph Spitfire, TR7
    Lotus

    4 on 98mm (3.858")
    Alfa Romeo Alfetta
    FIAT
    Lancia

    4 on 100mm (3.93")
    Acura - Integra to '89
    Audi - most models to '89
    Audi Fox
    BMW 1600, 2002
    BMW - 2002, 300-series to '89
    Chevy - Chevette '76-'87
    - Spectrum, Nova '80-'89
    Dodge - Omni, Rampage, Aries, 024 '79-'85
    - Charger, Daytona (FWD) '82-'89
    Honda - all (except '76-'80 Accord, Civic) to '89Isuzu - Impulse, I-Mark to '89
    Nissan - Pulsar, Sentra '87-'89
    Opel Kadett
    Plymouth - Horizon, TC3, Reliant, Voyager '78-'89
    Renault - all to '89
    Toyota - Celica, MR2, Tercel '86-'89
    VW - Dasher, Fox, Jetta, Rabbit, Scirocco to '89

    4 on 4 (101.6 mm)
    Austin-Healey Sprite
    Crosley - all '39-'52
    MG Midget
    Jensen Healey
    Opel Manta, Kadette, GT
    GM L-body
    Buick Skyhawk '75-'81
    Chevrolet Vega, Monza '71-'81
    Pontiac Sunbird, Astre '76-'81
    Oldsmobile Starfire '75-'81

    4 on 4-1/4 (108 mm)
    Alfa Romeo (exc. Alfetta)
    Ford - Fairmont '78-'86
    - Mustang 4-bolt patterns '74-'93
    - T-Bird '80-'88
    - Pinto '71-'80
    - Fiesta '78-'85
    - Escort all (RWD and FWD)
    - Cortina all
    - Taurus, Tempo, EXP to '89
    - German-built Capri I, II, III '69-'8?
    Mercury - Capri '71-'88
    - Cougar '79-'88
    - Merkur, Topaz, Lynx '80-'89
    - Zephyr '78-'86
    Plymouth Cricket
    Porsche - 924 '77-'84
    Sunbeam - Tiger, Alpine '65-'70

    4 on 110mm (4.33")
    Mazda - RX2, RX3, RX4, GLC, 626, P.U. '71-'82
    - RX7 to '85

    4 on 4-1/2 (114.3 mm)
    Acura - Legend '86-'89Buick - Special '61-'63Chevrolet
    Corvair all 4-bolt
    Chevy II all 4-bolt
    Sprint '85-'87
    Nova ('61-'70)
    Datsun/Nissan - most models to '89
    Dodge Colt '79-'88
    Dodge Colt (early)
    Ford
    Mustang all '65-'68 4-bolt
    Falcon, Maverick, Granada all 4-bolt
    Mazda - 626, RX7 '83-'87 ????
    MGA, MGB, MGC
    Olds - F-85 '61-'63
    Plymouth - Arrow, Sapporo '79-'88
    SAAB all ???
    SAAB - 900 to '87
    Toyota - most exc. MR2 and P.U. to '89
    Triumph TR 1..6

    4 on 110mm (4.724")
    Honda

    4 on 130mm (5.11")
    Porsche - 914 '71-'82
    VW Beetle, 411, 412, 1500 Sedan, Transporter/Vanagon
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    this list is only to tell me what i allready knew.
    that the bolt panttern that i can use is 4x98 and its for alfa romeu fiat and lancia...

    "4 on 98mm (3.858")
    Alfa Romeo Alfetta
    FIAT
    Lancia"

    I cant find nice wheels for my small car :'(

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    One option is to find a friend with a milling machine and redrill to a more common pattern. With a 4 bolt pattern it's pretty easy since you can put the new holes between the old ones. I did this with my wifes old spitfire because of how expensive the wheels were, redrilled the hubs and rotors to a 4 lug VW pattern and had a good selection of wheels.
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    Originally posted by alapimba
    this list is only to tell me what i allready knew.
    that the bolt panttern that i can use is 4x98 and its for alfa romeu fiat and lancia...

    "4 on 98mm (3.858")
    Alfa Romeo Alfetta
    FIAT
    Lancia"

    I cant find nice wheels for my small car :'(

    I'm sorry.

    Please forgive my inability to read minds....
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    c9x, sorry if i was rude in my answer
    don't take me wrong

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    Originally posted by alapimba
    c9x, sorry if i was rude in my answer
    don't take me wrong

    Ok . . . and perhaps I was a bit hasty in judging.



    I believe OldJeep has the answer you seek.

    Many of the 4 lug aluminum wheels have a solid back and drilling for a new pattern would be no big deal.

    In fact, a whole new bolt pattern would not be necessary.
    You could mill the original circular holes to oval going toward the outside or inside as required and end up with a Uni-Lug style wheel that doesn't need specially shaped/machined washers.
    Round washers would do it.

    A set of thick - 1/8" or so - washers (Centerline makes a nice one)
    would clamp the wheel down properly.

    This style Uni-Lug is fairly common with aluminum wheels made from the mid-80's onward.
    They work well and a lot of guys use the thin mag lugnut style washers with them, but they tend to "cone" inward and let the torque values drop off.
    The thicker washers cure that.

    I've run a set of these Uni-Lug style older mags for 42,000 miles on my 32 roadster with no problems.
    510# + engine torque available and used now and then.
    Which goes to show the Uni-Lug is an ok design for high horsepower applications although I would not use them on the drive wheels at the drag strip.

    The 10" wide pair of 15" rear wheels I run were approved by SEMA when I bought them new in 1985.
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    I was actually talking about redrilling the hubs and rotors on the car, not the wheels.
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