Thread: Welding Education Resources
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12-25-2005 02:32 PM #1
Welding Education Resources
One of my goals for 2006 is to develop my welding skills and eventually purchase a Mig Welder. I have checked the local community college and they do have classes, but unfortunately they are during the day when I am at work. I am fortunate to have some friends who are excellent welders, one is even a retired shop teacher, so I have them to learn from. Since we did our family Christmas yesterday, I have had some time today to surf around looking for books and other learning tools to get some book smarts before I move to the practical side. I'd like to share some that I found. Hope this helps other folks too and if you know of any others please post them up.
Excellent article with a number of resources listed at the end:
http://www.thefabricator.com/ArcWeld...le.cfm?ID=1083
That article was taken from this site, appears to be a great source for metal working:
http://www.thefabricator.com/Default.cfm
And here is some online tutorials from Millerwelds ETraining
http://www.millerwelds.com/education/etraining.html
Should give us all something to work on during the winter
Merry Christmas and Happy 2006 all
PatOf course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!
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12-25-2005 02:45 PM #2
I go here to ask questions,no offense,just wanting to pass a link.Mig welding in general is simple its when you want to get fancy that it gets a little harder.
http://www.weldingweb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6
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12-25-2005 04:02 PM #3
Re: Welding
Good links.
I have heard good input from these video rentals..
http://technicalvideorental.com/rental_27.html
Haven't gotten around to seeing any myself though. Still, the homepage lists lots of metalworking instructional tapes and DVDs.
Worth investigating if classes are not convenient (I'm in the same fix w/work hours!) :-(
My hint is get top quality googles/face shield. You only got two eyes and one face! Good luck.
-David
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12-25-2005 05:40 PM #4
If you plan to just weld as a hobby then classes are not needed. Get you a nice (preferably Miller, Lincoln is second choice IMO) MIG welder and then just practice. You will learn to KNOW in your head the setting that you need to a certain size metal, etc. Practice before you do a frame or such by getting TWO of the EXACT same sizes of metal that the frame or whatever you are welding will be and do a test bead.... Get your setting right and look on the back of the metal. If it is penetrating well then there you go. Like whoever above said, MIG is easy, just takes a little time to get it down and lay REAL nice beads. Now TIG is another thing.
Thanks for the links though, I will definetely check them out. Oh and I decided to change my major from auto body to Welding and Fabrication and taking night classes here at my community college and getting a diploma from it. Should be fun! "D Good luck Pat and keep us updated on your welding skills and what kind of welder you get!www.streamlineautocare.com
If you wan't something done right, then you have to do it yourself!
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12-25-2005 06:45 PM #5
I could teach you how to weld, I live about an hour away from Roseville in Vallejo. I can weld stick, tig, and oxy-acetylene. I can weld mild steel and stainless with all 3 processes. I can do aluminum with tig, but with the right flux I should also be able to do it with oxy-acetylene. I can also teach you how to braze which can be useful on autobody. The only trouble is, for some reason I can't mig? Isn't it supposed to be easy?
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12-25-2005 06:49 PM #6
You can TIG but not MIG? LOL Sorry that is just funny. Heh. Well there ya go Pat. Looks like you have someone close by that is willing to help you out. That would be really cool if you learn to TIG as well, just takes more time and money. Have you ever seen the Miller welders with EVERYTHING from MIG, TIG, Plasma, etc on it all together as one huge unit and a remote control to control the heat and wire speed? Now that is SWEET! That is what I wan't to save up for... If I remember correctly they are around 8500 bucks bare minimum...???www.streamlineautocare.com
If you wan't something done right, then you have to do it yourself!
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12-25-2005 11:45 PM #7
Hey 76GMC1500,
That's a great offer, I actually have some pretty good offers from guys in my club so I think I will save the mileage. One of them is even going to bring his welding rig over to my place to help on my winter project. I would like to meet up some time though, we will have to figure out a time and place
PatOf course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!
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12-26-2005 12:39 AM #8
Pat,
It sounds like you have a plan with some help to learn to weld. Your biggest concern will be practice and more practice.
You might also consider the video, that was mentioned earlier, from http://technicalvideorental.com/rental_27.html I had a chance to watch "Oxy-Acetylene Welding ..with Steve Bleile" at MetalMeet several months ago. It is geared towards someone that is just learning how to weld, but it was good.
I've also heard good things about technicalvideorental.com. If you haven't heard of them, you should check out their website.
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12-26-2005 04:50 PM #9
Check (if you haven't already) the adult education program at the local high schools; you might get lucky. When I lived in Grass Valley, I took some welding classes to brush up and catch up (had not had a torch in hand for about ten or so years) at the high school there. The teacher ran a fabrication shop in Nevada City, and was very sharp. The courses were at night, for three hours. You being in Marysville, with all of the ag-industry around there, there should be something similar around.
As for me, I can do almost any welding task reasonably well, but MIG is my real weak spot; feed vs. heat vs. wire size - just not as good a result for me. Maybe I truly am a luddite. On steel, an oxy-acetylene torch and enough time will get me great results.
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01-28-2006 07:51 PM #10
I never took any classes, i just bought myself a mig welder and practiced, practiced.. Now i can lay down a pretty nice bead, and am confident when using the mig. Just get one and practice youll get it
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01-29-2006 06:39 PM #11
I have to agree with FMXhellraiser get out there and practice alot. I like to tig more then mig but my project was so large I used mig for most of it. What is really important is to learn how to test your welds.
Johnhttp://www.jtm311.com
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01-29-2006 06:50 PM #12
Yeah he is right, learn to test your welds out. Also for a frame I think I would prefer a Stick welder IMO. I would trust one way more than I would with a little 110v MIG. Anyone here do up a frame with S.M.A.W?www.streamlineautocare.com
If you wan't something done right, then you have to do it yourself!
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01-29-2006 07:13 PM #13
FMXhellraiser it really is how much you have to weld stick it good but if you have a lot to do you should go with mig.
as in my case.
http://www.jtm311.com
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01-29-2006 08:46 PM #14
I think Butte College has a great welding program, if not there are a few really good schools in Sacramento. Take a class.Michael
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02-02-2006 05:49 PM #15
welding
I learned to weld in a factory welding steel boxs with a stick welder. 14 yrs ago I bought a MIG and never looked back. use the same machine for frames as for sheet metal. Change the wire and weld stainles, or aluminum. I have never tried tig but can't imagin it being that hard. Practice and more of it. Always check your penitration.
Charlie
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