Thread: I need a different driveshaft
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11-06-2006 06:52 AM #1
I need a different driveshaft
I have a correct length driveshaft already in my car but it was made up out of all junkyard parts with only new u-joints - and that does concern me. Which brings me to the point of "I need one with ALL new parts".
I've looked at a few fabricators, i.e. Denny's and Inland Empire, and would like to throw this out for discussion:
Not limited to the two above, who have you used and how was the service/price/final product quality - I want to use aluminum as well so I can polish it to match the suspension. I would like any web site addresses if possible.
Thanks allDave
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11-06-2006 07:09 AM #2
I'm sure there are some other very good ones, but I have used Denny's and have been extremely pleased with them. If a driveshaft can be called pretty, theirs is. Comes all painted nice black, that has held up for years and years.
Even has a cool Dennys logo on it.
Don
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11-06-2006 08:19 AM #3
I just bought a steel one from Inland. Denny's told me 3 weeks on delivery!
Project33.com has an aluminum one from Inland and it's gorgeous. Those two sources seemed to be the best ones that I could find.
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11-06-2006 08:43 AM #4
What, if anything, is wrong with the junkyard parts shaft?
I had a new one made up from new tubing - and the old yokes - and had it electronically balanced at a SoCal driveshaft/machine shop.
It ran very smooth.
Not too far down the road I pulled the overly high-geared 2.75 diff and installed a 3.70 which necessitated a new driveshaft 1" longer.
(Ford 9" diffs have different companion flange lengths depending on the vehicle they're used in.)
The local speed shop made up a driveshaft from junkyard parts - tubes and yokes, but new U-joints.
It is not balanced and runs as smooth as the original balanced shaft.
I was going to balance it, but like the speed shop owner said, "We make driveshafts for 160 mph doorslammers and have no problems with balance."
From what I see, the problem with some driveshafts is excessive runout, but looking from here it doesn't seem like you need a different driveshaft.
'Course, sometimes a person wants to start a project with all-new parts and there's nothing wrong with that.
Pays yer money and takes yer choice as the saying goes....C9
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11-06-2006 09:05 AM #5
I just went to a local shop that makes them up. $125. I supplied the ends and U jointsCharlie
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11-06-2006 09:18 AM #6
are you concerned with the reliability of the shaft or its appearance? if it is reliability then the u joints are the only moving part on the shaft and they are new, unless you are pulling holeshots with a 500 hp motor everyday your current shaft is fine if it runs straight with no vibration issues. i had a built 383 vega with a rock crusher 4 speed, i side stepped the clutch a gazillion times with a stock shaft. i dont think i ever drove that car without pulling a holeshot! now if your after looks then go for aluminum, if steel is your replacement, you already have one of those. clean it up and paint it black.
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11-06-2006 09:34 AM #7
Originally Posted by C9x
I've aways run the "remanufactured" junkyard driveshafts with never ever a problem and have one in place now. My concerns are several fold. The first being that being a Ford powered car the fuel pickup in the '32 style gas tank is on the right hand side and the engine fuel pump is on the left. I have to cross over the drive shaft with my fuel line - tho protected with a loop and a bunch of steel, want to make it as safe as possible. And, no, I'm not going to use an electric fuel pump tho I do have a new Holley as surplus Secondly, with living here in the frozen tundra of the NE rust belt, my current drive shaft has some rust pits. Thirdly, the trans and diff yokes are an unknown quantity without expensive electronic testing - for instance have they been exposed to a nasty crash in their original vehicle that may have cause deformation or cracks. And last - the machine shop that did the existing driveshaft used the 'wrong' end of the junker I brought them - there is a fair size ding that was not evident until it came time to clean and paint several months later.
So with all that said, peace of mind comes at a $3 to $400 price tag .Dave
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11-06-2006 11:02 AM #8
Carbon fiber is a little pricey,but exsplodes into tooth picks if it breaks.Alu is a little more forgiving that steel and steel is the strogest ,but will wreak havoc when it breaks.Just what I have read and seen,others may have different take on it.Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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11-06-2006 01:44 PM #9
Like said........the "U" joints being the only movable parts...........I see no need to spend money where its not needed, unless the old one rusted out or got damaged in some way...............Of course, I am about as cheap as they come.
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11-06-2006 02:19 PM #10
Originally Posted by poncho62
Didn't you get lost on this forum as well (as I did ) ???Dave
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11-06-2006 02:34 PM #11
WOW thats some nice neat work and alot of money ,I would not hesitate to get a new one made at a race shop just for the safety of my nice ride and peace of mind.If it did go ,not counting bodily harm ,it would wipe out close to a thousand dolloars in parts ,2 muffs and that polished stainless hard line and those anodized an fittings,not to mention all the other stuff it could grab along the way.On a project like that ,toss that old questionable driveshaft with the dent in the can! along with the yokes and u-joints.With a investment like that I would go custom carbon fiber,not only add value and look trick,but way way safer if it does pop and less likely to take the rest with it!!Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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11-06-2006 03:06 PM #12
The thing is.........if its gonna break, there is a 90% chance that it will be the joints that break, not the shaft.....but, if it makes you feel better.
I come here when I need a break from that other place...................
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11-07-2006 09:45 AM #13
I did it !!!
I went with Denny's - a HD steel unit, solid u-joints, new trans yoke, with an internet $30 discount and $20 for shipping it was $266. Only downside was a 3 week delivery cycle - but since we have seen snow here.....
If their product is as good as their phone service - I'll be very happy.
All - Thanks for the commentsDave
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11-07-2006 11:59 AM #14
i am also on the budget builder, i see your concern. you could either install a 11 ga. plate across that cross member you have there to cover the fuel line, or run the line through a steel tube of some kind. even with a new shaft i would still put a protective barrier there. when ever you mess with a chance to burn up, its not worth the risk. i would run the plate or pipe also. my dad was burned from his waist down to his toes in a car fire, not a pretty sight, and months of severe pain.
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11-11-2006 06:45 AM #15
Originally Posted by mooneye777
The fuel and brake lines are actually shielded on top by 3/16" plate and below by 1/4" plate. 3/4" x 1/8" wall square tubing is sandwiched between the two plates with the 2 lines running thru the opening between them. The rubber tubing - actually neoprene fuel line is wrapped around the SS lines for protection from chafing in case road vibes bounce the lines around. Also, you don't see is additional underside bracing on the forward crosspiece. The driveshaft loop itself is currently a specially made 9/16" spring u-bolt - then everything but the u-bolt was powdercoated.Dave
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