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    twitchy steering-Must II

     



    I am considering installing a Must II IFS in my current project(48 GMC Trk).

    The last time I used this front suspension I used a T-Bird power R&P. The Chevy ps pump put out too much pressure & it was very tritchy at 70 mph. I was afraid if I had to swerve to miss something on the road I would lose control.

    I see Heidts has a valve to reduce pressure going to the r&p. Have any of you had experience w/this valve or have another method to improve the driveability ?
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    I used the mustang P-R&P on my 38 with the GM pump and never had a problem.
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    The pressure valve is fine and probably worth considering, but my guess is that you had a caster setting that was incorrect or the toe was out under operating conditions. Either will give you 'twitch'
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    There are several companies selling the pressure valves like the one from Heidt's. I don't have one on my car, but have many friends that have used them with much satisfaction. Never had a problem with my car being twitchy at 60 + mph, but steering is very quick at very slow speeds. You get used to it, but could be a problem for someone unfamiliar with it. I would recommend getting the pressure valve if you have concerns.

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    I put the valve in mine, still plenty easy to steer at low speed, and much more stable and susceptible to twitchy on the highway. IMO well worth the money....
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    That's for the replies. I'll try to find a valve that screws into the pump first. If not made, I'll use Heidts external valve.
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    Well I called Borgeson's & they do not have such a valve. They sell spring shims....I have heard they do not work(?) . I'll keep searching.
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    I see this issue come up every once in a while and I wonder why you wouldn't use the MII pump and make brackets to adapt it to the motor you're using.

    My last engine swap was a 302 Ford into a 83 Mitsubishi truck. I mounted the Mitsubishi pump on the 302 and it worked like it was supposed to.
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    My friend down the street used a ford pump on a modified chevy SB bracket, worked great. My 38 Silverstreak has a 75 Nova front sub-frame clip so no problem.

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    Thats a great idea to use a Ford ps pump. That was in the back of my mind, but the thought got lost in a efford to find a way to reduce the chevy pump pressure. I might be forced to go that route but prefer to try the Chevy pump first. (I have a new GM pump & Allen Grove brks)

    Dave...what valve did you use & how much camber are you running?
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    I read an article in some mag many years ago (maybe Street Rodder???) on this problem. Their solution, as I remember, was to weaken the spring in the pump by cutting out a coil or two. I did this and it worked for me. Running it still on a 36 Plymouth with small block Mopar, GM pump and Mustang II power rack.

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    Thanks Larry, I have tried to find such a article on the web, but so far no luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Meyer
    Well I called Borgeson's & they do not have such a valve. They sell spring shims....I have heard they do not work(?) . I'll keep searching.
    works great and cheap Iput one in my 50 f1 mustang II about $17.00 too. they have some new parts and a variety of washer to change the output. I believe I went from about 1100 psi to about 750 and works great. ED ke6bnl Borgy one
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    I had a revelation and went right to the article in a drawer in my basement. The article was on page 174, Street Rodder / Jan 1992. I don't have a scanner but can FAX it to you if you send me a FAX number. I may be getting old as dirt but every once in a while my memory surprises me.

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    LarryH, Thats great, however I do not have a fax machine. I looked for the Jan 92 issue but I do not have it. Can you describe a summary of the contents of the article for us all to read.
    Thanks Don
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