Thread: Barn Find.

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I say, I say ... take the antenna off his cell phone ...
so's he'll pay attention .

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You must be one of them city boys.

I grew up on a farm in Ill. Believe me there is no such thing as an abandoned farm....unattended maybe, but not abandoned.

Go to the nearest occupied farm and I can guarantee you they will know who's farm it is and the owner will know exactly what is in the barn. Track down the owner BEFORE you go poking around......chances are you will be told there not for sale but who knows you may get lucky. It may be a wasted trip but it beats sitting in jail which is where you'll be if someone calls the cops and your there without permission.

Chances of striking a deal on the car(s) are a lot more remote if you pi$$ off the owner by him finding out you were out there without permission.

Alright maybe my posts have came off the wrong way.. My intentions where this go out to the property if there is a no trespassing sign thats fine.. If there isnt Ill go up on the property and see if I can find out who the owner is.. If needed go to the nieghboring but while on the property take a quick peak with out walking into the wide open half fallen down barn just to see if its worth my time..Im not a thief I dont intend to be obnoxious about this..

As for the gun issues GUNS ARE FOR PUSSIES . It gets no simplier then that.. I repoed cars for 4 years before the economy went sour because of the war. I covered the entire state from Chicago to STl and down to puducah ky.. Nothing pisses me off more then a coward with a gun..All of you might think its legal to point a gun at a man for trespassing but its not. Xspecially when no crime is being commited.. Trespassing isnt a punishable crime unless done numerous times with a order signed.. The whole story which is probally bs is that years ago there son hung himself in a tree out on that farm afterwards the family moved out.. The farm hasnt been lived on since just a bunch of dumbass kids going out there to party and some one got caught at some point in time with a meth lab.. I dont intend on disturbing anything and I do intend on contacting the owner but I want to make sure its even worth going though all the trouble to do so first..

Originally Posted by 217-z

Alright maybe my posts have came off the wrong way.. My intentions where this go out to the property if there is a no trespassing sign thats fine.. If there isnt Ill go up on the property and see if I can find out who the owner is.. If needed go to the nieghboring but while on the property take a quick peak with out walking into the wide open half fallen down barn just to see if its worth my time..Im not a thief I dont intend to be obnoxious about this..

As for the gun issues GUNS ARE FOR PUSSIES . It gets no simplier then that.. I repoed cars for 4 years before the economy went sour because of the war. I covered the entire state from Chicago to STl and down to puducah ky.. Nothing pisses me off more then a coward with a gun..All of you might think its legal to point a gun at a man for trespassing but its not. Xspecially when no crime is being commited.. Trespassing isnt a punishable crime unless done numerous times with a order signed.. The whole story which is probally bs is that years ago there son hung himself in a tree out on that farm afterwards the family moved out.. The farm hasnt been lived on since just a bunch of dumbass kids going out there to party and some one got caught at some point in time with a meth lab.. I dont intend on disturbing anything and I do intend on contacting the owner but I want to make sure its even worth going though all the trouble to do so first..

Sorry it upsets you... A lot of us get upset with people who think they have to swear to get their point across... As to the other, you want to trespass, go trespass.... The law is the law. Even if you were a repo man.....

The farm may not have been lived on for years....that's a moot point.

The days of the small family farms of 180-260 acres are long gone (they were ending by the late 60's). Most of the small farms have either been sold to bigger farms or are leased to another farmer to farm. In many cases if the old out buildings were still in decent shape they were/are left standing for storage of equipment and stuff they wanted people TO KEEP OUT OF.

Good example is my self back about 79 or so. I was on orders to go to Panama for 2 years. A neighbor very kindly allowed me to park my 2 cars (V8 Pinto and a V8 Vega) in a shed he had on his property. Nobody was living in the farmhouse at the time. Much like the property I suspect you are going to go look at the place was still farmed and the neighbors keep an eye on the place. Had a stranger come on to the property....especially if he started hauling stuff off, at the minimum he would have gone to jail.

I still have friends and family back in that area. Some things are stored for sentimental reasons other because the OWNER feel they have value. People with the attitude you appear to have........ your "rights" as a curious individual outweighing the legal owners property rights ......can really upset the owner of the property.

I'm not saying not to go check it out (wild goose chases can be fun). DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. Get permission first. You may get told no.....if you do it's probably because someone in the past has already done what you are planning on and ruined it everybody else.

Originally Posted by DennyW

Oh really ?? Tell that to all the soldier guys about guns being for P__sy's.

I am a vet.

Originally Posted by Mike P

The farm may not have been lived on for years....that's a moot point.

The days of the small family farms of 180-260 acres are long gone (they were ending by the late 60's). Most of the small farms have either been sold to bigger farms or are leased to another farmer to farm. In many cases if the old out buildings were still in decent shape they were/are left standing for storage of equipment and stuff they wanted people TO KEEP OUT OF.

Good example is my self back about 79 or so. I was on orders to go to Panama for 2 years. A neighbor very kindly allowed me to park my 2 cars (V8 Pinto and a V8 Vega) in a shed he had on his property. Nobody was living in the farmhouse at the time. Much like the property I suspect you are going to go look at the place was still farmed and the neighbors keep an eye on the place. Had a stranger come on to the property....especially if he started hauling stuff off, at the minimum he would have gone to jail.

I still have friends and family back in that area. Some things are stored for sentimental reasons other because the OWNER feel they have value. People with the attitude you appear to have........ your "rights" as a curious individual outweighing the legal owners property rights ......can really upset the owner of the property.

I'm not saying not to go check it out (wild goose chases can be fun). DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. Get permission first. You may get told no.....if you do it's probably because someone in the past has already done what you are planning on and ruined it everybody else.

I understand.. Its there for a reason wether or not its favoring me or not isnt the issue.. In harrisburgh Il we came across a trailer and a half torn down barn with a 66 impala.. Pulled up on the property in a tow truck because we where in the area repoing and checked it out and went next door. The guy owned it and sold it to my friend.. My boss use to go around when work was slow because we where out of Moweaqua a small town and use to drive around and pull up to places that had cars in pastures and hanging out of barns and asked if they wanted them hauled off for free.. Alot of the times they would and he would go crush them and collect wieght off of them.. I know this being a car forum nobody on here would apperciate anyone snooping around about old cars in bars or in yards .. But some people dont care about cars and just assume to have them hauled off..

Originally Posted by DennyW

So, you fought only hand to hand ??

All the guys were simply trying to do is warn you about approaching someones property. My self, if I saw someone, and they hadn't come to the front door first, I would holler and warn them only one time.

As far a a repo man, nothing wrong with that, if you like it. If you came to my door, and showed me the legal paper, I wouldn't object at all.

No I didnt fight hand to hand.. LOL I served in the first wave of Afganastan .. I just feel in the us pulling a gun on a unarmed man and shooting shots at him is weak.. Its a differnt story if he s threat to your friends or family.... Ive just had alot of run ins with guns with papers in hand ..

It would be differnt if it was a hood rat holding a gun sideways but country boys hunt and have alot better shot at moving targets.. Im just a father of 2 that loves car when guns arent brought into a pitcure they kind of tick me off because I have boys to raise and Im not up to no good... Maybe some of my ideas arent the smartest at times but i guess thats my age showing.. I just heard of these old cars and like to find out if they need saved so there not rotting away to history.

Originally Posted by DennyW

Well, yes it is somewhat. But, weather it's in the US, or not, doesn't matter, but you should know that from being in the military. When your weapon is down, and they take a pop shot at you from the side, under cover. It doesn't change the fact at all. Call it weak if you want to, but that's the way it is.

I was in the old war, and believe me, women, and kids were dangerous. So, I can tell, you have different thoughts on things, and that's ok, but you haven't learned the real of things yet totally. You don't cross a line, and call it safe. One place can be as dangerous as any other. Labels do not really mean much, or the US would be trouble free.

I hope you have luck in your search.

Right on Denny!
This all is a matter of doing whats right(the lawful way,not the rebel way).
Fact is,if you come on my property nosein,without first talkin to me,and probably half of the American males property,you may die Right or wrong,thats the way it is! And thats due to the state/condition of our culture/society.Too many thiefs and burglers,and most of us are mad that the justice system won't come down on criminals harder!AND IF I'VE BEEN DRINKING,,,,like alot of guys do,,,,may the lord have mercy,,,cause fact is,,,,many won't.

217 if the kids are out there partying then there must not be much interest in the property from neighbors or the law . Getting the cars out before serious damage from partying kids would be my goal . I would go look and snap some pics . If it looks interesting enough go to the neighbors and inquire who owned the land . BUT GET ME SOME PICS LOL i like the ole barn finds . If it wasn't for them i woudn't own what i do (titled).

As for guns don't need one either i've got a donk . Law is you have to prove intent to do harm before you can react . Sucks but thats the law in civilized states.

When i was in the service in Texas a rumoured unwritten law was if you caught a man in bed with the wife and killed them both you would not be charged. Think that would stand up in court today .

http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/

http://www.oksenate.gov/news/Nationa...m20041031.html 'Make My Day' law < old law pertaining to your home/BARN!/outhouse/ dwelling .

House Bill 2615 -the Stand Your Ground Law; amending 21 O.S. 2001, Section 1289.25 < allows Oklahomans to use deadly force in public places if they believe they are in danger. Colorado didn't pass it last i heard.

"you have to prove intent to do harm before you can react ."

Regarding discussion of laws concerning homeowner rights against the
unlawful entry of an intruder I offer the following to show how this
law is worded in my state:

'21-1289.25. Unlawful entry of dwelling - Physical or deadly force
against intruder - Affirmative defense and immunity from civil
liability.

A. The Legislature hereby recognizes that the citizens of the
State of Oklahoma have a right to expect absolute safety within
their own homes.
B. Any occupant of a dwelling is justified in using any degree
of physical force, including but not limited to deadly force,
against another person who has made an unlawful entry into that
dwelling, and when the occupant has a reasonable belief that such
other person might use any physical force, no matter how slight,
against any occupant of the dwelling.
C. Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including
but not limited to deadly force, pursuant to the provisions of
subsection B of this section, shall have an affirmative defense in
any criminal prosecution for an offense arising from the reasonable
use of such force and shall be immune from any civil liability for
injuries or death resulting from the reasonable use of such force.

Added by Laws 1987, c. 54, ' 2, eff. Nov. 1, 1987.



Don't get me wrong I don't want to put some one down .
But in this day and age ... one must think ahead of time .

seen this put into affect 2 months ago ( still looking for the write ups ) ,seen it on the news in Tulsa ... twice !
one involved a preacher in july ( ya! even the preachers carry around here - don't know how to take that ? ) the other was caused by what the call "Road rage" courts found shooter was in the RIGHT both times .


Now did the 64' impala guy go check out the cars and make it back or what?

T L

Sister lives in Arizona and yes she gets Illeagals crossing her land , question is should she sit and snipe everyone because they do . There on her land .

I woudln't go to a abondoned farm at night , going in daylight make alot off noise and swing the camera maybe ole farm boy has since enough to yell out then react. Heck for me all it takes is a mangy ole farm dog and im gone LOL .My family is from Tennessee and Alabama i see guns all the time . I do believe in protection inside the 4 walls of your dwelling . Once there inside im not asking either. Outside i can still call the law let them shoot them and clean it up .

The economy went south because of the war?? Huh?? Cept for the housing lending problem, the stock market is booming. You're blaming the war?? Are you one of those liberal anti-war ex vets? And one more thing about pointing a gun at a trespasser. Come down here to Texas as see what happens.

My grandpa used to lay in wait for the game warden on his property,the guy was tryin to be slick ,by not visibly wearing his uniform,but dreesing just like a hunter/old boy.
He had some "special" long brass shells loaded with rock salt,.................you try quoting the law to a old codger with a auto browing 12 guage spewin rock salt at ya.....by the way the local judge said he did no wrong,not sure the warded felt that way with all the rock salt in his petunia.
It taught me a lesson,do not go on someones property without permission.
Here is the sign on my property in the city.........no tresspassing
Tresspassers will be violated ,...survivors will be shot.

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