Thread: Idle stop solenoid help
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03-08-2008 06:32 AM #1
Idle stop solenoid help
I have a 1972 454 with as idle stop solenoid. The carb is a factory rochester. I don't understand how this solenoid works. I do know that when the connection wire is attached, the idle increases about 300rpm. Is it only supposed to work when the AC is switched to on? Thanks for any help
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03-08-2008 06:43 AM #2
yes that is what it forIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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03-08-2008 12:32 PM #3
These dashpots were in wide use in the '70's. We had just experienced the Arab Oil Embargo and the manufacturers were forced to drop compression ratios dramatically to cope with the cat-pi** gas that was available at the time. They also began to run the motors hotter to try to help with emissions and placate the "green" people. If there were any deposits in the chambers or burrs on the spark plug or even a head gasket that overhung a little, they could glow red from the heat of combustion. Then when you turned the key off, the throttle blades were still open at the idle position and the motor would pull in enough fuel/air mixture to diesel, with the hot spots in the chamber igniting the mix.
The fix was to install a dashpot that held the throttle blades open to the idle position when the key was on. With the key off, the dashpot relaxed and closed the throttle blades fully so that no mixture was introduced into the motor. No mixture to burn, no dieseling.
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03-08-2008 11:29 PM #4
I had a 78 LTD which I put a toggle switch on the dapshot for a high idle when it was cold.
hey, I was 16. It worked..
Education is expensive. Keep that in mind, and you'll never be terribly upset when a project goes awry.
EG
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03-09-2008 01:03 PM #5
Techinspector1 has the correct answer. It was never meant for bumping RPMs for the A/C although some of us rewired it that way, hehehe!There is no substitute for cubic inches
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03-09-2008 03:44 PM #6
Actually, I seem to recall that on that 78 LTD it DID come on for the AC. Factory wired that way..
Education is expensive. Keep that in mind, and you'll never be terribly upset when a project goes awry.
EG
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03-09-2008 03:51 PM #7
Originally Posted by DennyWIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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03-09-2008 04:00 PM #8
Originally Posted by Twitch
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03-09-2008 07:34 PM #9
Thanks for the replies
Such the wealth of knowledge from my brotherly scholars of club hotrod.
The solenoid activates whenever i plug the wire to it. It must be wired wrong. I will connect it to the AC wiring. Thanks again guys
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03-10-2008 07:37 PM #10
1972 monte carlo with factory air and 402. The wire going to the solenoid must be hot wired because I plug it to the solenoid with the air off and it raises the rpm about 300-500. It seems like it used to work when I first bought the car and since then, I have not done anything to change the wiring. When I used to start the car when it was cold, it used to idle very high( a warm up idle) and when the gas pedal was depressed after a short period of time, it would go to a normal idle. Now, during a cold start, it just idles a low rpm and I have to keep pumping the accellerator until it is warmed up. I will have to trace that wire back and find out what is going on. I may have a choke issue too. I have the old divorced choke style. Thanks again in advance for your info.
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