Thread: Ram Horns vs Shorty Headers
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04-04-2008 03:57 PM #1
Ram Horns vs Shorty Headers
I keep hearing that old school ram horms are better than shorty headers for trucks.
I have a 77 pickup with a sbc 355 that currently has stock manifolds.
I know the driver's side clearnce to the steering box is too tight for standart long tube headers. So I have a choice of going to shorty headers, ram horns or just keeping the stock manifold.
Can someone pont me in the right direct to find actual tests that show that ram horn manifolds are better than shorty headers?
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04-04-2008 05:07 PM #2
Maybe the old Vette exhaust manifolds were, I seem to recall that they were larger then the stock type rams horn manifolds on the rest of the cars. Maybe somebody here remembers what years or a more specific application?????? As far as which would perform better, depends a lot on what all is done to your engine. If your looking for any kind of significant gain over the stock manifolds then it would seem modifying the front tube on a set of long headers would be the way to go. I've seen the horsepower claims on shorty headers somewhere, maybe on one of the header companies sites?????Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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04-04-2008 05:33 PM #3
If you were to go the Ram style route, go with the mid 80's rams from a small block C-50/C-60. Whether or not anybody has spent flow bench on them to compare them with the 60's manifold, I do know their ports and Inside Diameter is larger thru the piping.What if the "Hokey Pokey" is what it's really all about?
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04-04-2008 06:37 PM #4
Rams horns exhaust manifolds are not a damn bit better than headers. They are cheaper, if you can get them at a wreckers, but that is about the only benefit. The interior of the cast rams horn headers is an "as cast" surface, and will not flow as well as even a cheap set of tubular headers.Old guy hot rodder
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04-04-2008 06:40 PM #5
Originally Posted by brianrupnowYesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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04-04-2008 07:31 PM #6
Supposedly, the rams horn manifolds Speedway is selling flow pretty well.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/3823...Manifolds.html
Don
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04-04-2008 08:08 PM #7
Long tube headers will fit a 77 with small block.
I had a 76 and an 85 and my son has an 84. All these share the same basic frame as the 77 and all had long tube headers.
I prefer the Hedman Elite's that don't use collector gaskets. They use a ball and socket for collector seal.
Mike
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04-04-2008 08:11 PM #8
Originally Posted by Hotrod46Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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04-04-2008 11:47 PM #9
Ram Horn
I have set ram horn manifolds from 69 impala . Your welcome to them.
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04-05-2008 01:46 AM #10
Originally Posted by Itoldyouso
Life is not a dress rehearsal… Live each day to it’s fullest!
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04-05-2008 09:03 AM #11
Yes they are nice. Should last a lifetime too.
Don
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04-05-2008 11:14 AM #12
I am stuck between those stainless horns and a set of stainless shorties too.......Its gunna take longer than u thought and its gunna cost more too(plan ahead!)
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04-05-2008 12:46 PM #13
It might be a good idea to compare the straight-down manifold compared to the tuck-in angle of the shorty headers. On my A-frame it looks like the shorty headers give more clearance for the steering D-bar.
Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder
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04-05-2008 02:28 PM #14
Originally Posted by 25T_Bucket
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04-05-2008 02:32 PM #15
With my clearance issues and since shorties or ram horns will not seem to add much over the stck manifolds I may just clean ot my existing manifolds and give then a short of high temp paint...and let it go until the crack!
GCG
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