Thread: Fuel filters
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09-09-2008 06:58 PM #1
Fuel filters
I'm going back and forth about whether to get a firewall mount canister fuel filter or an inline one. I'm oscillating between these two from summit. What do you all think. It will go on my new 460 with just a mechanical fuel pump, and mild engine build, with an edelbrock 750 carb
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09-09-2008 07:00 PM #2
i would use a in lineIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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09-09-2008 07:07 PM #3
Summit makes two almost identical canister types, one is 2.44 in diameter the other 3.25". Both same price. The size doesn't really matter as I have the room in the engine compartment. I like the fact that the canisters probably do a better job. Next question. What do you think about where in line to put it. Before a mechanical fuel pump, or after?" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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09-09-2008 07:34 PM #4
after the pump if there is one in the tank on mechanical .i would look at the one that works better for the room you haveIrish Diplomacy ..the ability to tell someone to go to Hell ,,So that they will look forward to to the trip
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09-09-2008 08:12 PM #5
Not exactly "on topic", but while your plumbing in the new fuel filter it would be a great time to ad a fuel "shut off" valve. You can get a quality "ball type" natural gas valve at your local hardware store for about $5 and place it between the tank and the fuel filter. Next time you want to check, or replace the fuel filter, just turn the valve one quarter turn and your ready for service.
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09-09-2008 09:28 PM #6
Here's my 2 cents
I added one of the summit canister filters (G1503.... the first link) to my 76 Dodge PU shortly after it was built because I was getting a bit of crap from the original tank. They are a good unit and also by design will seperate any moisture that may get in the tank.
Here is the down side IMO. I have not been able to cross the paper filter element with something that was OE (spell that cheap). Replacement filter elements are $10 each......but they do include all new mounting bolts and the 2 allen wrenches to install the filter AND brackets . Not a bad deal , but you don't need all the extra stuff that it comes with it and they charge you for.
As an aftermarket part when they discontinue it and you can't get replacement cartriges for it your kind of screwed (which is why I ordered 10 extra filter kits for mine). Which will be the quandry with either filter.I've NEVER seen a car come from the factory that couldn't be improved.....
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09-09-2008 10:09 PM #7
the Fram HPG-1 canister filter was originally used on some diesel trucks as I understand.. I don't think it would be hard to find replacement elements for that filter..
HPG-1 is more money, but if the filters are available, it's worth it... I bought the HPG-1 for my Falcon 200 I6 engineYou don't know what you've got til it's gone
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09-10-2008 06:48 AM #8
I originally put the Summit canister filter on my car near the tank but found it was too close to the exhaust so ended up with a 6" Speedway in line race car filter. I think the canister unit would do a better job but on my 'A' chassis, just wouldn't fit with all the rest of the chassis clap trap. But, since I may be taking those big 50 series Flowmaster mufflers off (ho hum sound) and putting glass packs on, might just reinstall the Summit piece.Last edited by IC2; 09-10-2008 at 06:51 AM.
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09-10-2008 08:05 AM #9
Originally Posted by John Palmer
You will really be happy later if you take John's advice.
Ken
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09-10-2008 08:46 AM #10
I agree with the ball check valve.
Turns a difficult job into an easy one.
Couple pics of the fuel filter in my car.
Hard to tell but the plumbing is, tank, ball valve, filter, pump.
The filter is a small Wix fuel filter.
The mount is a regular oil filter remote mount for the Fram PH8a series of filters.
Although, there's a different nipple that has the remote filter threads on one end and a smaller thread for the filter.
After I made the nipple and put it all together I find that Wix makes a PH8a size fuel filter that screws right onto the remote mount.
The Wix filter box will say "fuel fiter" on it.
Pay attention so you don't end up with an oil filter in your fuel system.C9
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09-10-2008 08:58 AM #11
Originally Posted by C9xDave W
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09-10-2008 09:26 AM #12
Originally Posted by John PalmerLast edited by stovens; 09-10-2008 at 09:35 AM.
" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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09-10-2008 09:43 AM #13
Sometimes, if money was not generated in limited supply, things like this would seem to be just the ticket! But not for $219.00
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09-10-2008 09:52 AM #14
I use two inlines on my 34, one between the tank and the elec pump and the other before the carb. Only have one on the 57, frame mounted Fram type before the carbs. All have always done their job. Mostly a matter of choice.
On the 57, I have a switch to cut off power to the elec pump so I can run my carbs dry. Then changing the gas filter is not a mess job. Will likely do the same to the 34 one day.Last edited by mopar34; 09-10-2008 at 09:56 AM.
Bob
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09-10-2008 10:06 AM #15
Originally Posted by stovens
You can make a lot of this kinda stuff with a small lathe.
You could probably duplicate it for way under $10 for the aluminum and the mesh screen.
It's probably a fairly good filter, but the stainless mesh strikes me as an old fashioned deal that's quick and easy to set up for the mfg.
Far better imo to have a screw on filter.
Better filtration and swapping is easier than dis-assembling and cleaning.
219.00 is seriously over-priced.
Granted, good looking, but I wouldn't buy it if you knocked 90% off.
I think what we have here is the Rodeo Drive syndrome.C9
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