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01-26-2009 11:28 AM #1
When to use an electric fuel pump?
I have been learing a lot about cars/engines the past few years. I am wondering why so many people seem to run electric fuel pumps on street driven hot rods. I have always ran mechanical on various engines 350 and 396 up to 480 HP on the street with normal mechanical fuel pumps. These were never on the stip though.
At what point must you use an electric pump? Just looking to learn more about this area.32 Ford
Des Moines, Iowa
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01-26-2009 11:45 AM #2
i have mechanical pumps on all my stuff .. just the V6 pinto did`nt have provisions for one ..( fuel injected ) originally .. now has 4 barrell carb ...i suppose there is a point in HP or rpm`s at which electrics are required to keep up with flow ..iv`e used up all my sick days at work .. can i call in dead ?
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01-26-2009 12:27 PM #3
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01-26-2009 03:08 PM #4
My previous car was a street/strip 65 GTO with a 389 tripower and a 4 speed.
After much fiddling I got it to run 13.30's pretty regularly. Then one Sunday , it stalled when I did the burnout. It had never done that before. It restarted and everything was fine, BUT, it got me wondering if I was running out of fuel with prolonged high RPM.I added a Carter electric pump, and the next weekend the car ran a 12.97 and speed jumped from an average of 105+ to over 107 MPH!!
Prior to stalling that one time it never displayed any symptoms of fuel starvation. It always pulled strongly all the way through the quarter.
The engine probably made an honest 340 HP.
Food for thought.Buying parts I don't need, with money I don't have, to impress people I don't like
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01-26-2009 04:21 PM #5
i always wonderd to
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01-26-2009 06:29 PM #6
For street use, and a lot of the bracket cars a QUALITY mechanical fuel pump does just fine.... Edelbrock, Carter, and a number of companies have mechanical pumps flowing upwards of 110 gph and pressures up to 9 pounds.... Then there's the new style one for the chebbies, only 1 moving part!!! The majority of the good mechanical pumps have
3/8" NPT threads, which works fine for -6 or -8 hose or tubing....
When it's time to go drag racing in something running 12's and faster, I usually go to one of the good electric pumps with -8 lines and a regulator with a return line..... I just don't like them rattly old electric pumps on the street!!! The new gerotor style is considerably quieter, but they're also a whole lot more $$$$$ then one of the good mechanical pumps....Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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01-27-2009 06:23 AM #7
K.I.S.S----Keep It Simple Stupid! The stock (or improved) mechanical pump is the way to go until it becomes obvious that it won't do the job. Usually flow rate is not the problem, the stock pump has to "pull" the fuel against acceleration and often causes starvation. An electric pump mounted behind the tank and rear line in the tank fixes that problem. Not usually a concern on a street rod.
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01-27-2009 07:43 AM #8
I would have preferred a mechanical pump, but when you pinch the frame on a '32 Ford, there is no room for a mechanical pump, hence the necessity of using an electric pump.
Lynn
'32 3W
There's no 12 step program for stupid!
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01-28-2009 08:24 AM #9
Good info, guys.
I have a tunnel ram set up on my Nova with (2) Edelbrock 500 cfm carbs. Again,street only and I have never had any issues or hints there of.
Now I am looking at going with a small block or big block blown engine in my Ford and really don't want to move over to an electrical pump either. Again, simply street duty with a little smoking the tires here and there.32 Ford
Des Moines, Iowa
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01-28-2009 02:30 PM #10
IMO with aftermarket mech pumps flowing 110 gph or more @ 9# or more there's just no need for an electric pump for a carbed motor on the street.
Of course FI and limited space is another story.
I run a Holley mech. pump on my blown small block with dual Demon 650s and have never had anything close to a fuel delivery issue.
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01-29-2009 01:53 PM #11
I guess the fuel starvation from G forces is why the mooneyes tank in front of the grill became popular?
I run an electric on my C-10 becuase the stock pump push rod was locking up when the motor got hot. Wierd, huh?.
Education is expensive. Keep that in mind, and you'll never be terribly upset when a project goes awry.
EG
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01-29-2009 07:36 PM #12
When there is no option for mechanical pump, electric pump is used.
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02-06-2009 10:14 PM #13
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