Steve, that horizontal bandsaw in the one picture has been a lifesaver. We've worked that thing hard for about 4 or 5 years and it has improved the quality and ease of our work so much. It flips up to become a vertical bandsaw too, but it was always marginal at that aspect.........runs too fast and blade too wide. So I have been looking for a used metal cutting vertical one for a while. Finally found the grey one in the other picture, bought it from the same older guy who was closing up shop. We've only begun to use it, but love it already. The speed is super slow and it cuts curves like one should.

Tools really do make the job so much easier. What I would give for one of those waterjet babys like you see on American Chopper !

Don