Thread: Exhausting questions
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06-19-2009 05:08 AM #1
Exhausting questions
Hi all wondering if you could help me out with a question i have regarding the installation of a balance pipe in an exhaust system......
At the moment i have a dual exhaust installed on my car and wish to install a balance pipe. Due to space limitations i have decided to go with the 'H' type which leads to my questions...
Is the balance tube required to be the same size as the exhaust system or can it be smaller? and is there an optimum posistion (measurement) before the mufflers?
Thank you in advance for the help!
ps any links that may help greatly appreciated
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06-19-2009 10:07 AM #2
I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but have thought about it some and tried to make sense of it.
The problem of loading one side or the other of a dual exhaust system has to do with the firing order of the motor. On a small block Chevy, there are two times in the 720 degree cycle that one or the other side gets two shots at a time. In the firing order 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2, cylinders 8 and 4 fire together on the right side of the motor and load up that pipe while the other pipe has nothing going on in it. Halfway around the cycle from there, cylinders 5 and 7 fire together on the left side of the motor and load up that pipe while the other pipe has nothing going on in it.
If we connect the pipes in some way and allow the two-cylinder exhaust slugs (8-4 and 5-7) a way to disperse into the other (empty) pipe, we can equalize pressure in the system and perhaps attenuate the exhaust note.
I have read that as long as the pipe is ahead of the mufflers, it will work. This makes sense to me. There is little restriction in the system until you get to the mufflers, so all the pipe from the exhaust valve to the muffler would see the same pressure (or vacuum), sort of like in a hydraulic system where the same pressure is seen throughout the system.
As I think about the size of an "H" pipe, I think it should be as large as you could make it (up to the size of the parent left and right pipes) simply because you have TIME to deal with in the system. I would think that a smaller H pipe than the exhaust pipes would take more time to transfer the slightly higher pressure from one side of the system to the other and may not be as effective as a larger pipe. I don't know for sure, I'm just thinking out loud. At 3000 cruise rpm's, there are 100 pulses per second going down each pipe, so you don't have very long to equalize them.Last edited by techinspector1; 06-19-2009 at 10:11 AM.
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06-19-2009 10:19 AM #3
I like the X pipe --- and usually locate it about under the tailshaft housing/fromt u joint as there generally is room there and something to hang it from(cross member)
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06-19-2009 01:21 PM #4
I did an "H" type just behind the transmission cross member. Not a ton of room here, but enough to use same size tube (2-1/2") and it fits well. Sounds really good with a nice rumble down both pipes.
Let us know what you decide.
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