Thread: IFS without fenders pic
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05-02-2010 01:13 PM #1
IFS without fenders pic
Does anybody go with independent front suspensions on fenderless rods? I'm reading where the porportions get too wide when using IFS and removing the fenders.
Wondering...can anybody can point me to some pics of IFS rods (29-36 coupes, cabs, roadster type) without fenders?
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05-02-2010 01:26 PM #2
IFS can be done on a fenderless car. Some don't like it, some do.
Here's a pretty high-tech version.Jack
Gone to Texas
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05-02-2010 02:28 PM #3
This what the front of my '31 looked like before I installed the body and fenders:
It's a TCI Stage 3 chassis - which w/o fenders to some would look nice, I don't care for it that way as my preference is straight axle, no fenders, IFS. fenders.
The AVATAR is the completed carDave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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05-02-2010 05:15 PM #4
Specifically, what is the trade? What is(are) the consideration(s) to weigh between the two?
I understand the mechanical/performance elements. Are the trades focused purely on aesthetics? Tat's fine, too. Just want to make sure I'm not overlooking anything.
BIG thanks to the awesome feedback from this forum!
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05-02-2010 05:19 PM #5
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05-02-2010 05:27 PM #6
The trade is ride of the IFS, handling is generally better as you have infinite (within design limits) caster and camber adjustments plus the option of adjustable coil overs vs bending of the straight axle and adding and removing spring leaves. Weight wise, the IFS is lighter by quite a bit. Aesthetics are in the eyes of the builder/owner. There are some IFS one offs (i.e. the late Boyd Coddington's) that are functional as well as beautifully done with inboard springs and shocks operated by bell cranks and levers - but very expensive to design and build
"You're saying
straight axle = no fenders
IFS = fenders
CORRECT??"
This is my opinion (along with other folks) not anything cast in stoneDave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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05-02-2010 07:11 PM #7
I do!!! Love the IFS on fendered and non fendered cars. Not much into the "traditional" (whatever that is) stuff as much as I'm in to handling and control...I like to go fast, play on the Valley Road, and an occasional trip to the road course on track day--non class, test and tune type of event...
I guess if you are the type who has to do with what's in vogue, then fenderless cars would have a straight axle... I like straight axles, they look great on nostalgia drag cars but for the street, hard to beat the IFS handling and control, and as Other Dave mentioned, the ease of adjustability and tuneability of an IFS... Actually, been planning and estimating on a strut front non fendered roadster for a customer, kind of a modern Altered Roadster look on the street! Think it would be a great setup, though I'm sure the majority would look down their nose at anything so non-traditional!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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05-02-2010 07:23 PM #8
Dave - I would NEVER look down my nose at an IFS non fendered car. If it was done right, they can be as nice as a traditional solid axle. How many of those low end MII clunky looking IFS have you seen that you have said - "There is a better way" or words to that effect (like these - a perfectly good product, but you need fenders http://www.chassisengineeringinc.com/page51.html)Dave W
I am now gone from this forum for now - finally have pulled the plug
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05-02-2010 07:33 PM #9
Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
Carroll Shelby
Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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05-02-2010 07:39 PM #10
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05-02-2010 07:43 PM #11
That Factory Five roadster used ifs and it looks pretty good, but the whole car is built like a race car, so I guess it Ain't "Traditional" lol. But I was familiar with their cars, before the roadster, and they handle like a race car. I like the I-Beam on a fenderless Hot Rod. But then thats me. Now some with the S-10 factory a frames, and no fenders......... Well they cover that stuff for a reason.
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05-02-2010 07:45 PM #12
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05-02-2010 09:20 PM #13
runway1, welcome to CHR, you've found a great place for information!! I'm using the same TCI Stage 3 IFS setup as Dave (IC2) for my fenderless '32 coupe project, I was more interested in the ride quality than the 'traditional' look. Here are some pics of other '32 Fords with IFS, most of these have the front frame horns removed, a look that I don't particularly care for but we're all entitled to our opinions and they are going to be different.
Mike
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05-02-2010 09:25 PM #14
Here is mine, No fenders
Ken
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05-02-2010 09:31 PM #15
Here are a few more pics for you.
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