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05-25-2010 07:56 PM #1
trickle charging one battery from another
hers on I cant figure out , have a old truck camper that i want to take to the races nothing fancy but it has its own battery for the water and lights and radio . other than installing a isolator is there a way to connect a 12 v wire from the truck to the camper battery and trickle charge the battery at like a 10 amp draw while driving. I know from experience that if the truck campers battery was realy low and you hook it up to the truck battery the current movement is excessive that it will either smoke the wire or continously blow fuses as it just pulls too much current. I am trying to figure out a way to keep the truck battery fresh so it will start but still be able to chrarge over to the camper battery without running a big cable to it.
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05-25-2010 08:45 PM #2
What you are doing is just what we did in the marine industry because most boats have more than one battery. The problem with just hooking up a wire to the second battery is that the alternator regulator will see the first battery that gets fully charged and think it's job is done. Here is a very good write up from West Marine that will explain some options better than I could:
Charge Management
Battery Isolators used to be the best method of distributing charging current to multiple battery banks while assuring that they remain electrically isolated during discharge. These devices are electrical "one–way check valves" that allow current to flow to, but not from, the battery. Their disadvantage is that diodes cause a voltage drop that wastes charging energy, creates heat and causes batteries to be undercharged. Alternators with external voltage sensing can correct for the undercharging problem, but voltage drop and the heat generated remain a problem.
Automatic Charging Relays (ACR) are becoming a popular method for achieving the same goal as isolators, but they work on a different principle. Instead of using diodes to block current from flowing in both directions, ACRs use mechanical relays combined with a circuit that senses when a charging source is being applied to either battery. When a charge is being applied, the ACR closes; and when the circuit senses that the charge is no longer present, the ACR opens (after a short time delay to assure that the ACR doesn't open due to temporary voltage sags caused by load startups, like a refrigerator turning on).
Automatic Charging Relays have lots of other uses in addition to isolating the Start and House batteries, and Blue Sea Systems now produces two relays for two kinds of jobs:
* CL7600 Current Limiting: Great for automatically charging a remote battery for a windlass or bow thruster, for combining or isolating two banks on a smaller outboard, I/O or inboard. Connect it to your high–powered stereo to prevent the subwoofer system from draining the House bank. Handles 60 continuous amps. User–adjustable open and close voltage settings, for 12V systems. Includes Current Limiting feature.
Don
Or, you can add a simple battery selector switch like this one and simply remember to alternate between 1 and 2 as you travel to charge both up. Here is a simple wiring diagram how to hook that one up. Omit the parts about "house distribution panel, etc" and use only the part about the two batteries.Last edited by Itoldyouso; 05-25-2010 at 09:04 PM.
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05-27-2010 08:23 AM #3
thanks for the response don, i think am going to use a switch and heavy enough wire to charge the battery .
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05-27-2010 08:31 AM #4
You are welcome. About 2-4 gauge battery cables should work fine. Even the premade lengths from AutoZone and others are perfect. Plus, if you need to crank the engine from the second battery, or in conjunction with the number one battery, you can do that by putting the switch to "both".
This is really the cheapest way out IMO.
Don
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