Thread: Garage Painting for Dummies
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08-07-2010 10:57 AM #1
Well I visited the local paint store on a fact finding mission. Very interesting, I can still buy solvent based 2 part epoxy primer, only in gallon size, and they still have solvent based paint for base coat, and clear coat. However, they can't get mail order to any town in the Bay Area Air Quality District. However a town 20 miles up the road can. He said they are trying to discourage home painters by making it too expensive.
Also have a friend with some Summit paint I may procure, so so far it sounds like water based base coat may not be the only answer, though I think I'll visit a second shop to confirm this is accurate.
Also had a good chat about Candies with him and see the error of my ways for thinking I could do this first time out. He explained how the base coat color affects the finished color, as does the number number of coats and the thickness of the coats. Also it seems that it would be much easier using a single stage paint like "Summits Paint, Single Stage, UV Stable, Acrylic Urethane"
Which was part of that do it yourself feature article in Hot rod magazine last year. Finally the price for their paint is definately right at this point. They also sell a clear coat for this paint which I'm sure will create even more questions from me when the time comes to do this.
Again thank you all for your imput and please add any tips or info towards home painting on this thread as I meant it as a starting thread for all project builders considering giving painting a try. Also with respect to the Professional painters on here, I realize you guys have a ton of knowledge in this area, and can see why you may or may not want to encourage someone to try this, considering all the places a person could screw up a paint job along the way, not to mention all the different paints and processes for each paint that seem to exist out there(it is truely overwelming).
Any tips would and are appreciated. Thanks, Steve." "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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08-07-2010 02:03 PM #2
I think by the first of the year 2011 , all of California has to comply to waterborne products , they can use up what solvent they have , but if they get caught spraying it , Heavy fines will incur .
Kandies are not for the average painters , they require excellent gun control & knowledge of overlaps to keep from getting tiger stripes and blotchiness & other horrific things , and the cost of having to re-do because a lack of this knowledge will kill the pocketbook !!!!
For first time sprayers its better if you stick with solid colors , either in Single Stage or Base coat clear coat . Some finer metallics in darker hues are a bit easier to spray instead of a light color high metallic .
Yes some harbor freight guns are made for beginners , but BETTER EQUIPMENT make it much easier to get a better quality job .
Get a good quality respirator that fits before attempting to spray as the chemicals you ingest can cause great bodily harm !!!!!!!!!!!
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08-08-2010 09:36 AM #3
One more thing that should always be mentioned in garage painting threads is to be mindful of fire. Seems like there are often water heaters or furnaces or other devices that have pilot lights that are staged in garages. Open flame source and solvent in the air are a bad combination.Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
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08-08-2010 10:04 AM #4
A very good point!" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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08-20-2010 09:58 AM #5
O.K. since we've been chatting on other threads about Fisheye, etc...Before I start epoxy primer thru my new paint gun, should I clean that gun first? If so how and with what?" "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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08-20-2010 10:19 AM #6
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08-20-2010 12:15 PM #7
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08-20-2010 04:39 PM #8
What gun did you buy, Steve?
On thinner, Dave gave good advice. Local here I got 5 gallons of automotive lacquer thinner (labeled cleaner) from my independent paint guy for $30. He has a small, local solvent guy that packages good stuff, and he passes on the savings. The box stores got more than $10/gallon, and theirs leaves a film on things.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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08-20-2010 05:23 PM #9
Ditto on the model kits! My best were lost when the Hobby Shop burned under suspicious circumstances....
How did you get hooked on cars?