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11-03-2010 07:35 PM #1
Heat Shrink Hose Clamps (Gates/McMaster Carr)
Gates advertises a heat shrink hose clamp that is actually supposed to work better then the usual worm drive clamp. Since I'm going to do an engine compartment clean up thought that this might be a big help. I can get rid of that hokey Cool-Flex upper hose, use a piece of 1.5" steel tubing for the upper hose, connecting it to the rad with those clamps. There appear to be lots of sizes so maybe I can get rid of most all those heater hose clamps as well. So far, I can only see one negative - they aren't reusable. Then, of course I'll need a 'bump' on the steel tubing that may be a problem
Anyone ever used these and any problems found?
http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...ocation_id=546
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Produc...lamps&deptId=0
http://www.mcmaster.com/#hose-and-tube-clamps/=9kbuxxDave W
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11-03-2010 08:03 PM #2
never heard of them but i am very interested in what others have to say that have used them.BARB
LET THE FUN BEGIN
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11-03-2010 08:09 PM #3
I had a buddy (now deceased) who used them a few years ago. He thought they were great. They certainly make for a very clean looking installation. I never heard him complain about a leak or any other shortcoming.Your Uncle Bob, Senior Geezer Curmudgeon
It's much easier to promise someone a "free" ride on the wagon than to urge them to pull it.
Luck occurs when preparation and opportunity converge.
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11-03-2010 08:26 PM #4
Dave,
I had to splice hoses for my upper & lower radiator hoses, and both have the Gates heat shrink clamps on sleeves with no bump. No problems do date. The one thing I learned is that it does not take much heat to shrink them. I slipped these clamps on my radiator and heater hoses to use at the ends, but I wanted to be sure I was ready for a permanent installation since they have to be cut off so I slid them up on the hose leaving room for regular clamps. After a few dyno pulls all of the "temporary" clamps were shrunk in place by the heat of the hoses, creating minor restrictions by squeezing the hoses down I had to cut them all off, and to date I have not gone back and broken the lines apart to put the fancy clamps on. They really do look clean, especially if you clean all of the green print off of them with lacquer thinner before you put them in place. Just be sure to shrink them fully with a heat gun.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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11-03-2010 08:58 PM #5
They work great & give the engine compartment a clean look. Ford & G.M. have been using them for a few years on their preformed heater hoses & tubes.
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11-04-2010 01:38 AM #6
Never heard of them, but they do look nice and clean." "No matter where you go, there you are!" Steve.
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11-04-2010 04:11 AM #7
We sell them and have had little inquiry about them.We have had them for 3 years now and I think we sold maybe 2.
They do take a special tool to remove them without cutting the hose but I guess if you're careful it can be done.
They do make for a clean look but I still like the idea of being able to remove and put back with one tool..........just my .02
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11-04-2010 05:17 AM #8
Thanks folks,
Roger, you just confirmed what I hoped would happen - that they would continue to heat shrink.
Now - to count my clamps and get them on order as they really aren't very expensiveDave W
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11-04-2010 05:44 AM #9
Dave,
NAPA sells them, but I don't know how they are listed in their online system and cannot get them to pull up for a price. Might be worth a call to them to compare with McMaster-Carr.Roger
Enjoy the little things in life, and you may look back one day and realize that they were really the BIG things.
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11-04-2010 06:30 AM #10
Roger - they are listed in the NAPA catalog as "Thermoplastic Clamp". None of our local stores have them though the warehouse 15 miles further down the road does have the heater hose sizes - but of course, they will order them. Pricewise, a bit more expensive at NAPA then McMaster Carr, but when shipping is factored in, very close. Thanks for the NAPA tipDave W
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11-09-2010 10:39 AM #11
As I remember, these were introduced on GM police cars and taxi packages during a program to reduce the leaks and warranty returns due to the leaks. About the same time, the centerbolt valve covers came out for the same reason.
The hose clamps are supposedly better than a gear clamp since they continually are trying to tighten as the hose heats up. They compensate for the movement of the rubber hose where a gear clamp gets loose when the hose shrinks.
Mike in Tucson
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11-11-2010 06:55 AM #12
Hans
If you can't use me as a good example, then use me as a horrible warning.
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11-16-2010 08:21 PM #13
They have been around for awhile. I sold them in my old shop . We use to get them from Napa .They are used on big rigs. Just as posted above they keep tightening under heat .Really clean up the engine area too.
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11-17-2010 02:26 AM #14
We have them over here Dave, they certainly look much better than Coolflex but only my personal opinion but i don't think you can beat smooth black and polished stainless clipsIts aweful lonesome in the saddle since my horse died.
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11-17-2010 05:35 AM #15
This is what I have on my Speedway Wish List - and I'll order in the next few days along with a few more items I need (errr---want). I'll probably get the heat shrink pieces from NAPA along with a couple lengths of connector hose.Dave W
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